Posted on 07/05/2005 2:56:08 AM PDT by Clive
You say it's BS because someöne has posted a opinion on an internet boatd that it's BS? (Just Checking)
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Did anyone happen to notice that today would have been Leslie Mahaffy's birthday? I thought it was deplorable that Karla was released at the end of the school year, but this is almost too much to bear.
Please think of the families of the victims and say a prayer for them today. They are the ones that should be remembered.
"Those videos were all clearly scripted and two of the three jurors who were ever interviewed after the trial felt that Homolka was being manipulated."
Really? How do you manipulate an older sister into allowing a younger sister to be raped? I can't even imagine myself drugging, sedating, and allowing my younger sister to be raped by my hubby. This _itch is evil and deserves the backlash she will get from the public.
Constant beatings, fear, terror, psychological control techniques, brainwashing (induced post traumatic stress disorder)..... Why?
Bull! Karla was just as eager as her sicko husband. Karla was actually wearing her sisters close for Paul so that they could re-enact the rape. Karla needs to be sitting in a jail cell for the rest of her life....and all you are doing is making excuses for her behavior.
I'm not going to keep on repeating the same stuff. I've posted links to real information on this story. This is a case of a brainwashed girl and a national hate fest promulgated by an out of control media seemingly intent on killing or causing the death of a defenseless woman.
Defenseless young woman? Let's end the debate here....I'm afraid that my response to that line will cause me to be kicked off of FR.
Kitties! You have your Orders!
The fact is, she did do it. AND the fact is, she may not do the crime again, I am sure there a a lot of people who do not want this person near thier communities.
Hey, you! One-note Charlie! Who cares!? Go find somewhere else to peddle your snake oil!
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/03/13/life.after.kidnapping/
"There's no question at the time of the abduction she was in fear, and was fearful for a period of time," said Salt Lake City Police Chief Rick Dinse.
He also said the fact that she was walking around with the couple in an area where she might have been able to escape indicted that they had some sort of psychological control over her.
Patricia Hearst Shaw understands what that is like. She was a college student when she was kidnapped from her apartment in 1974, imprisoned in a closet, sexually assaulted and forced to participate in a bank robbery before being freed.
"You have been so abused and so robbed of your free will and so frightened that you come to a point that you believe any lie that your abductor has told you. You don't feel safe. You think that either you will be killed if you reach out for help, or you believe your family will be killed," said Hearst."You've, in a way, given up, you've absorbed the new identity they've given you. You're surviving -- you're not even doing that � you're just living while everything else is going on around you," she said.
Hearst said that for some time after Elizabeth is back with her family she may still believe "her kidnappers have some sort control over her."
Hearst said she didn't feel free until she faced her abductors in court and "knew for sure that they could never, ever hurt me again."
Elizabeth's father, Ed Smart, also believes his daughter was brainwashed. He and his family have not pressed her for details to spare her further trauma.
The Patty Hearst conviction struck me as a flagrant miscarriage of justice at the time, so much so that had I been the judge I'd have set the jury verdict aside without a second's hesitation. You had a case in which a very naiive 20-year old girl had been subjected to techniques which broke down trained soldiers in the Korean war and the criteria of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt was clearly not met.
The cases of Homolka and Smart are entirely similar. They walk around entraped in whatever it is ignoring obvious chances to escape, and this is incomprehensible to most people but, at some point, the control had become internalized.
Homolka's words on her interview last night tell much of the story:
Napier: You said a few minutes ago that you will always have to live with what you did. Do you feel any remorse?Homolka: Yes.
Napier: How does it manifest itself, that remorse?
Homolka: I cry often. I can't forgive myself. I think about what I did and often I think I don't deserve to be happy because of what I did.
Napier: How do you judge now what you did? When you think about it, how do you judge yourself?
Homolka: What I did was terrible and I was in a situation where I was unable to see clearly, where I was unable to ask for help. Where I was completely overwhelmed in my life and I regret it enormously because now I know I had the power to stop all of that. But when I was living through it, I thought I had no power.
Sociopaths/psychopaths are quite capable of spinning a convincing yarn about how it Isn't Their Fault.
She needs to just go away. I don't care how cute she looks. her eyes are diabolical. Evil is in that woman.
At the time that picture was taken the woman had been using food to flavor her valium with just in order to function. That WILL produce a glazed look in somebody's eyes...
MONTREAL (CP) - Karla Homolka's calculated appeal to French Canada appeared to hit her target audience Tuesday, with many francophone Montrealers ready to give the sex killer a second chance in her adopted province.Homolka may be one of the most despised figures in Ontario and the rest of English Canada, but many Quebecers say they see a repentant woman who is clearly haunted by her crimes.
The ex-convict went on Radio-Canada on Monday with a French-only plea for the breathing room to start a normal life a few hours after completing her entire 12-year sentence for manslaughter. .....
...The Quebec press council denounced English media coverage of Homolka's release, particularly the desire of some news organizations to follow Homolka. The council said it demonstrated ethical differences between Ontario and Quebec news organizations...
I mean, the American media is messed up enough, but I never saw the American media try to kill anybody or get anybody killed for no rational reason.
If Robert Hare and others are correct and psychopaths have different EEG signatures from normal people, then it might actually make sense to devise some sort of foolproof test for it and brand these people with a capital 'P' on their foreheads or something like that when they're five or six years old so the rest of us can have an easy time avoiding them.
In the case of Paul Bernardo, the total price tag for having one psychopath being unrecognizable comes to a couple of dozen brutally raped women, at least three dead bodies and probably more like five or six, one totally innocent guy (Baltovich) spending eight or nine years in prison for one of Bernardo's murders and still facing a second trial without anybody saying word one about questioning Bernardo on the matter, and a woman just now getting out of prison after twelve years for her part in this whole mess which almost certainly involved brainwashing or something entirely similar to that.
That's too high a price for to pay for whatever political correctness might arise from having defective people walking around unmarked and undifferentiated.
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