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1 posted on 07/03/2005 8:31:56 PM PDT by 2dogjoe
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Good news?

Depends, Hope so!

2 posted on 07/03/2005 8:35:06 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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"Bind" HELL..., the stalwart "Gang of 14" will melt their way through previous pronouncements and SHAZAAM, agree that their "Agreement" doesn't apply to whatever nominee named by President Bush...


3 posted on 07/03/2005 8:35:33 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), a leader of the seven Democratic signers, largely concurred. Nelson "would agree that ideology is not an 'extraordinary circumstance' unless you get to the extreme of either side," his spokesman, David DiMartino, said in an interview.

Define "the extreme of either side". I would guess that registering as a Republican at some point in their life would define any nominee as being extremist. Certainly such extraordinary circumstances could justify a filibuster.

5 posted on 07/03/2005 8:37:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Please!!

We are talking about DeathoCrats here. Since when do they allow a deal, giving their word, an agreement, get in the way of their political ambitions!

Remember:

Never Underestimate The Depths To Which The Deathocrats Will Sink For Personal And Political Power!

Also remember:

Republicans Have Nothing To Fear Except Themselves!

6 posted on 07/03/2005 8:37:03 PM PDT by technomage
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Deal smeall, the RATS will do as they wish and the pubbies will wilt, as usual. It's happened before. Much, much, before. Surprise me, pubs, get balls.


8 posted on 07/03/2005 8:38:03 PM PDT by Waco
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Some bind! "Extraordinary circumstances" is whatever the hell they want to make it.


9 posted on 07/03/2005 8:38:41 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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With President Bush expected to name a successor to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor next week, liberals are laying the groundwork to challenge the nominee if he or she leans solidly to the right...

I doubt they need to worry. I don't think there is any chance of that.

10 posted on 07/03/2005 8:38:41 PM PDT by eskimo
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Good news?

Maybe, just depends on how it plays out. The real battle will be for "control" of the courts which is ridiculous to be talking about because the courts should not be so important, but none the less they are. If President Bush nominates someone the Dems vote through right away they,IMO, will feel more empowered to oppose the next candidate, surely more Conservative. Thats why I say it is important to make them play their hand now on a real honest to goodness Strict constructionist or originalist. Just my opinion

11 posted on 07/03/2005 8:39:46 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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Anyone who expects the Dems to honor an agreement is crazy.


12 posted on 07/03/2005 8:40:45 PM PDT by Natural Law
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Expect the Democrats to pull a Bolton on any Conservative Supreme Court Nominee. They'll delay. They'll procrastinate. They'll get out the old playbook and pull a Bork. They'll force the Republicans to change the Senate rules to get a confirmation and kick their feet and throw a tantrum about how the Republicans have destroyed the Constitution.

It's a win-win for the Democrats. If they can delay and block a nomination, they retain marginal control of the SCOTUS. If they force the Republicans to change Senate rules, they win the propaganda war and will use this during the mid-term elections to their advantage.

The Democrats are absolutely ruthless. The Republicans act like they haven't figured out that they are in the majority.


14 posted on 07/03/2005 8:45:36 PM PDT by not neo just conservative
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You can't serously exspect the lefties to keep thier word, but then the Republicans can use the constitutional option again and finially get rid of the Fillibuster.

Personally I think being able to prevent a yes no vote is a clear violation of the advise and consent policy in the constitution and I know I am not the only who agrees.


15 posted on 07/03/2005 8:46:06 PM PDT by bgnn32
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LET THE GAMES BEGIN!


16 posted on 07/03/2005 8:46:40 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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The answer is for the President to nominate someone who is already acknowledged by both parties to be acceptable and in the mainstream. Someone like Janice Rogers Brown.


19 posted on 07/03/2005 8:52:06 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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I believe the attitude will be "we know nothing about any deal".


31 posted on 07/03/2005 9:17:47 PM PDT by KStorm (Facts are different from minds.)
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Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), handling a similar question on NBC's "Meet the Press," said: "I wouldn't say, 'Are you going to uphold Roe?' But I would ask a nominee . . . 'When you have a decision which has been in effect for decades, and people have come to rely upon it, what kind of circumstances, how extraordinary must they be' " to try to overturn it?

45 million dead and a slightly lower number injured psychologically and in some cases physically consitutes "extraordinary circumstances."

33 posted on 07/03/2005 9:19:42 PM PDT by Lexinom
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The Democrats were NEVER in a bind. The oral agreement with the Democrats is not worth the paper it is written upon.

They followed the first rule of french diplomacy, always leave an out clause. EVERYONE here on FR saw this, the democrats would just say a USSC justice is a "extraordinary" circumstance.

The democrats are not and were not ever in a bind. They will do whatever they want. The msm will help them. Both assume the public is stupid enough to let them.


34 posted on 07/03/2005 9:21:44 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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I trust Bush's ability to find and nominate a good conservative. However, I think even he and his closest advisers know that the "Republican" "majority" in the Senate couldn't pass beer through a college student without trying to sell him out in order to get on the good side of the Washington Post editorial board.

Forget about the Democrats' "pulling a Bolton." Ohio's illustrious Senators can't wait to sabotage another part of the President's agenda to suck up to the liberal press.

35 posted on 07/03/2005 9:41:29 PM PDT by GoBucks2002 (What can Dick Durbin learn from Kurt Cobain? http://yankeered.blog.com)
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SCUM IS SCUM!!! These dems will vote the way the dem enforceres tell them to or face the consequences of dem revenge. They have no honor, they have no integrity. They will oppose, obstruct and pee in the pool.

That is why any red state dem up for reelection in 2006 should fully understand what this vote will mean to his/her chances for another term. But, don't expect integrity, honor or constitutional responsibility from a dem, they live in the sewer and will act accordingly.

37 posted on 07/03/2005 10:09:22 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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It's only a bind for them if Bush nominates Brown, Owen or Pryor. Thehn we've GOT em.

Nudge nudge wink wink Mr Bush...Janice Rogers Brown, say no more.

38 posted on 07/03/2005 10:14:42 PM PDT by montag813
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The Democrats already have the excuses for not honoring their "no filibuster" rule prepared, and anyone who thinks they don't is too naive to live. For example, if the President fails to "consult" with the Dems prior to the nomination, that will trigger "extraordinary circumstances". If the President consults with the Dems, but fails to change his mind when they "reject" his nominee, that will trigger extraordinary circumstances (after all, the Democrats have already twisted the phrase, "advise and consent" into "filibuster and reject").


46 posted on 07/04/2005 12:20:43 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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