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ACLU Now Defends Polygamy, Further Eroding Traditional Marriage
Agape Press ^ | 6/24/05 | James L. Lambert

Posted on 06/24/2005 8:00:10 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Mrs. Don-o
"If the top (richest + most attractive) 5% of the men have 4 wives each, they're shall we say "monopolizing" 20% of the women......blah, blah, blah."

God in heaven where am I? You could just as well apply your "thought" to pickup trucks.......which legalizing marriage to will probably be your only option.
81 posted on 06/24/2005 9:52:39 PM PDT by byablue (Do not let the fear of striking out hold you back - Babe Ruth)
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To: JCEccles

"The nub of the problem is sex divorced from its purpose, which is the perpetuation of mankind."

So it is okay to have (heterosexual) sex with someone if they are capable of bearing a child (or fathering one)? Regardless of age? And as they are capable of procreation, it is not to be considered pedophilia?


82 posted on 06/24/2005 9:58:26 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: wagglebee

Like, who didn't see this coming?

Don't post it when they support adult sex with minors. It's only a matter of time, right after dogs, cats, donkeys, cows, manitees... you name it.


83 posted on 06/24/2005 10:09:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Torie

Maybe, the idea of actually pulling a marriage license when you are already married. I don't know. When was the last time it was prosecuted?

Here's a couple that have managed to make the news for their notoriety.

Luis Gonzalez convicted in Sacremento California 2002, even without proof of a legal marriage.

Tom Green, in Provo Utah, 2001 was all over the news as I remember, mainly because of the age of some of the "wives" involved.

Generaly such cases are accompanied by fraudulent representations to one or more of the "wives" which provide the basis of criminal intent required in prosecuting it as a felony.

84 posted on 06/24/2005 10:11:44 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer

IC.


85 posted on 06/24/2005 10:15:31 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; DaveTesla; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; ...

Moral Absolutes + Homosexual Agenda Ping.

A two-fer, with interesting discussion already in place. Logically, polygamy has more going for it than same sex "marriage", since at least the relationships in polygamy are still with a man and a woman (at a time) and the children each have a mother and a father still. Not that I'm advocating it!

The ACLU is evil; always has been, and still is. The ACLU would lose much of its power if OUR tax money didn't support it.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


86 posted on 06/24/2005 10:30:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: wagglebee

"But I think the majority of Americans view ACLU lawyers as people who hate America and who want to destroy all Judeo-Christian values and beliefs."

Here is a little irony: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (name changed to Israel), Moses. King David, King Solomon, etc. were ALL polygamists and yet they are highly revered still today. Anybody see any inconsistencies on this?

(Please note: I definitely am NOT advocating the legalization of polygamy today, and the ACLU drives me nuts; I'm just pointing out an historical fact that people in the Judeo/Christian tradition of today typically fail to acknowledge when abhoring polygamy).

:)


87 posted on 06/24/2005 10:32:07 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: wagglebee

Didn't everyone pooh pooh Santorum when he warned this was coming down the pike?


88 posted on 06/24/2005 10:44:59 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: wagglebee

Historically polygamy (man and more than one wife) has been practiced by many cultures. Sodomy on the other hand is considered unacceptable. I find many liberal females are uncomfortable with polygamy. Many of the married one will not be happy if their husband shows up with another woman and declares her to be his second wife. Let the ACLU legalize it, and you will see many liberal females question their own support for the liberal agenda.


89 posted on 06/24/2005 10:45:00 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; don-o; wagglebee; EagleUSA; Conservatrix; Pyro7480; murphE; Salvation; Aquinasfan
That leaves 35% of the men with no prospect of ever marrying and having families.

So?

If they ain't man enough to earn a wife in the free market, we must have woman redistribution?

90 posted on 06/24/2005 10:54:00 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Fee
Historically polygamy (man and more than one wife) has been practiced by many cultures

Most cultures, I think.

91 posted on 06/24/2005 10:55:03 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: JCEccles

So sex by an adult male with a nubile minor female is OK, because it has the potential to procreate is the malem in se? I don't think so. I think the issue of mature consent is where the rubber meets the road. The matter of procreation is a deflection from the matter of abuse, and sex without the potential of procreation need not be a matter of abuse. I think you have your moral boxes all mixed up. But then, I don't think sex is all about procreation. In fact, amazingly enough, humans are not really totally wired that way. The desire for sex is not limited to when the female is in "heat" in either gender.


92 posted on 06/24/2005 11:59:31 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Conservatrix

I can literally marry my money.

*pats the stacks of bills* Soon, sweetheart, soon...We shall bide our time, and then the whole world shall be forced to accept our love! Or rather, my inordinate preoccupation with greenbacks...Which is just as acceptable as any other kind of love. ;) Marry your car! Marry your kid! Why bother with distinctions at all?


93 posted on 06/25/2005 12:05:50 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: byablue

Don't forget one to massage your shoulders, one for the feet, another to fan you and another to feed you ice cream bon bons.

If any of them complain tell them to be happy they have brother husbands to help with the yardwork.


94 posted on 06/25/2005 12:13:27 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: JustTheTruth
Here is a little irony: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (name changed to Israel), Moses. King David, King Solomon, etc. were ALL polygamists and yet they are highly revered still today. Anybody see any inconsistencies on this?

Yeah. The OT prophets are not revered for their polygamy. They were not reconciled to God until they repented of their culturally approved sins.

95 posted on 06/25/2005 12:16:47 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: little jeremiah
at least the relationships in polygamy are still with a man and a woman (at a time) and the children each have a mother and a father still.

Actually those kids have a single mother and a biological donor who shows up once a week or so in order to get laid.

Let's just call this what it is: amoral men looking for promiscuity with society's approval.

96 posted on 06/25/2005 12:19:18 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: wagglebee

I think people should be free to enter into polygmus(sp) relationships as they please. Freedom is freedom, whether we consider it wacky or weird or what. Problems arising from freedom can be blamed on socialism - government benefits for marriage, government certificates for marraige, entitlemnt programs and child welfare programs etc...

If government didn't define marrage and let the people define it then we wouldn't have any of these problems. IMGO

If I recall the government sent the troopos in against the mormons and threw a bunch of them in jail and prevented them from voting and all kinds of tyranny took place out there.


97 posted on 06/25/2005 4:52:55 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Frank Zappa used to have that song about Pinky, the blow-up doll... that would blur distinctions...


98 posted on 06/25/2005 5:18:37 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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