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(AP/Ipsos) Poll: Majority says war in Iraq a mistake
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/24/05 | AP

Posted on 06/24/2005 12:23:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Just over half of Americans, 53 percent, now say the war in Iraq was a mistake - the highest percentage to say that in AP-Ipsos polling since December 2003, when two-thirds said the war in Iraq was the right thing to do.

The poll taken earlier this week also found that almost six in 10 disapprove of the Bush administration's conduct of the war, but about the same number say they would prefer keeping troops until the situation is stable instead of immediately withdrawing them from Iraq. Some other findings:

-Who most favors the war: Suburban men, Republicans.

-Who is most opposed: Those 65 and older, people living in urban areas, unmarried women, those who make less than $25,000 a year, Catholics and Democrats.

-War's conduct: Almost six in 10, 56 percent, said they don't approve of the way the Bush administration has conducted the war in Iraq, with 41 percent approving. Four of five Republicans, 79 percent, approved, while more than four of five Democrats, 84 percent disapprove.

-No hasty retreat: Given the choice of keeping troops in until the situation has stabilized or bringing troops home immediately, six in 10 said they want troops to stay and help stabilize Iraq. The percentage of people who want troops to come home immediately has increased to 37 percent, up from 28 percent in November.

The findings on the Iraq war come from a poll of 1,000 adults conducted June 20-22 for The Associated Press by Ipsos, an international polling firm. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3 percentage points, larger for subgroups.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: apipsos; ipsos; iraq; majority; mistake; poll; pollsoniraq; texasflowerlies; war
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To: NormsRevenge
Only shows the media is doing it's job as the propaganda arm of the DNC.

We're not losing. The fact that we've got more support from NATO and even the Usless Nations shows we're winning. Does anyone think these leaders are now jumping on the bandwagon because we're LOSING?? No, now that they feel it's safe, they're betting on the winning side, hoping to take advantage of the new markets opening up in a free Iraq.

21 posted on 06/24/2005 12:39:59 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: etcetera

Nobody asked me, either.


22 posted on 06/24/2005 12:41:13 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: COEXERJ145

Gee, a pol weighted toward the left? Who'da believed?


23 posted on 06/24/2005 12:42:18 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: COEXERJ145
50% Democrat,40% Republican 8% Independent 2% Refused (to identify)

If these percentages reflected the population, republicans would never win an election.

24 posted on 06/24/2005 12:42:43 PM PDT by Williams
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To: IL Republican

True. "Too many Americans voted for Clinton, TWICE." How's that?


25 posted on 06/24/2005 12:43:54 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Warning.... Contents under pressure....)
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To: warchild9

Nonsense. You've been watching too much MSM propaganda.

Soon the Iraqi Constitution will pass, another election will occur, and sufficient Iraqi police and military will be trained to start drawing down US forces. The Demorats have to turn Iraq into Vietnam fast or it will be over before they can do so.


26 posted on 06/24/2005 12:44:13 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: kristinn

I know but Americans put him in office twice.


27 posted on 06/24/2005 12:44:32 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Warning.... Contents under pressure....)
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To: Williams

I have some confidence that the public realize that pulling out of the situation would be a disaster. I also think that they're frustrated because it's sooooo obvious that the suits in Washington are jerking around and need to apply great power and end this thing. That they won't is what will force a pullout, through public frustration with their dilletance (is that a word in English? It's been so long since I studied French).
I fear that dragging the mess out (along with economic problems and the Mexicans) will also open the White House door for the Witch Queen, sap our strength viz a viz the Chinese, and God knows what else.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 12:44:44 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: jjmcgo

The rats and the MSM won't be happy until we high tail and run from Iraq and when the American people start spitting on returning troops....this is their hope and goal.


29 posted on 06/24/2005 12:45:04 PM PDT by mystery-ak (*Im sorry if my words offended anyone*.......Dickism)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't care who does a poll, whether the RNC, Alphabet networks, pollsters, etc. They are worthless until I see:

A: The actual poll questions

and

B: The demographic breakdown of the poll.

Just tossing out general groups without actual numbers questioned, along with whether or not they voted is meaningless.

As has been said in the past, we took a very important poll last November. President Bush was reelected. All other polls since then are background noise used to create a story that fits the anti war template of MSM.

By the way, considering all the negative press about our troops and the war, MSM must be having a hissy fit, because only 53% of poll respondents disapprove of the war.


30 posted on 06/24/2005 12:45:44 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: NormsRevenge

The DUmmies are still claiming that John Kerry won the election because exit polls said so. That's really all I need to know.


31 posted on 06/24/2005 12:45:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

MSM are taking "talking points/polls" straight out of al-Qaeda training manual. MSM propaganda does not have to make the people pro-Qaeda, as long as it makes them anti-Bush.


32 posted on 06/24/2005 12:46:07 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: slowhand520

Here in North Carolina, especially in military families (I come from a Marine Corps family, third generation, and have many ties in the service), everyone sees that television is spreading BS, but that the war needs to be ended, now, permanently. That will involve amplifying the military effort, which the suits have no intention of doing.
There's grumbling and moaning. No one wants a pullout, which would be tatamount to defeat, but no one wants to continue with the half-hearted effort shown so far.
A City Councilman over in Cary said it to me best: "Seal the borders (of Iraq: me), section the country and kill all the terrorists in each section. Game over." He was an officer in Viet Nam, so I listen."


33 posted on 06/24/2005 12:49:15 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: NormsRevenge
99.9% of those polled think that polls are BS. On Oct 8th, 04 AP/IPSOS polls also had Kerry winning 50-46% and only changed their numbers 1 week before the election. If the public was really that much against Iraq then Bush would have lost the election and numbers don't realistically change in a months time by 6%. The way these polls are phrased makes the difference. If they ask,"are you satisfied with the way the war is going?", most people won't be in the affirmative because most people can't be 100% satisfied with even 1 loss of American life and others always think they have a better plan. Even in WW2 there was a majority dissatisfaction of going to war with what was believed to be a European problem.
34 posted on 06/24/2005 12:50:31 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Polls are meaningless. Just under 50% voted for Vietnam/Cambodian veteran, JFK, and, therefore, are against anything GWB says or does. Consequently, the polls are weighted heavily with Bush haters and do not reflect whether the matter polled is good or bad.


35 posted on 06/24/2005 12:50:31 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: TheDon

I watch no televison news (neither network nor Fix, er, Fox). Please scroll around my responses to other people on this thread. You may find your reaction to my comments a little inappropriate.


36 posted on 06/24/2005 12:55:30 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: over3Owithabrain
"I too would be more in favor of Bush's handling of the war if he took the gloves off a bit more."

And what would that solve? We tried that in Fallujuah and it didn't matter. Doing that causes more innocent deaths and drives more people into actively supporting or joining the insurgency. There are only two ways to win a guerilla war. Either kill the entire population or don't get involved in one.

37 posted on 06/24/2005 1:03:55 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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To: NormsRevenge
The findings on the Iraq war come from a poll of 1,000 adults conducted June 20-22 for The Associated Press by Ipsos, an international polling firm

Junk and biased poll, as expected from an important pillar (AP) of the defeated liberal media.

38 posted on 06/24/2005 1:06:19 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: warchild9
Contrast the comments of your city councilman--who I believe reflects the beliefs of most Carolinians--and those of "Senator" Lindsay Graham, who said opinion in his home state had turned against the war. What a crock; I was in South Carolina and North Carolina a couple of weeks ago, and most of the people I talked to remain supportive of President Bush and the War on Terror.

Graham has been an absolute disappointment as a Senator. I hope someone challenges him in the GOP primary when he's up for re-election. That "whirring" noise you hear is Strom Thurmond (the man Graham replace) spinning in his grave....

39 posted on 06/24/2005 1:08:16 PM PDT by Spook86 (,)
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To: warchild9; billbears; sheltonmac
"Television rules the world, and television is telling the boobs that the war is already lost."

Television was telling "the boobs" that Iraq had WMD before the war, when there were plenty of sources that said otherwise. Why weren't the people boobs then but they are now?

But the media hasn't really been going into very much in depth reporting. Most mainstream Western journalists are confined to near their hotels in Baghdad because it is too dangerous to venture very much out into the field. What does that tell you about how well things are going? It's mostly independent journalists from foreign countries who are going out. The poll numbers would otherwise be a lot worse for Bush.

40 posted on 06/24/2005 1:12:46 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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