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(AP/Ipsos) Poll: Majority says war in Iraq a mistake
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/24/05 | AP

Posted on 06/24/2005 12:23:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Just over half of Americans, 53 percent, now say the war in Iraq was a mistake - the highest percentage to say that in AP-Ipsos polling since December 2003, when two-thirds said the war in Iraq was the right thing to do.

The poll taken earlier this week also found that almost six in 10 disapprove of the Bush administration's conduct of the war, but about the same number say they would prefer keeping troops until the situation is stable instead of immediately withdrawing them from Iraq. Some other findings:

-Who most favors the war: Suburban men, Republicans.

-Who is most opposed: Those 65 and older, people living in urban areas, unmarried women, those who make less than $25,000 a year, Catholics and Democrats.

-War's conduct: Almost six in 10, 56 percent, said they don't approve of the way the Bush administration has conducted the war in Iraq, with 41 percent approving. Four of five Republicans, 79 percent, approved, while more than four of five Democrats, 84 percent disapprove.

-No hasty retreat: Given the choice of keeping troops in until the situation has stabilized or bringing troops home immediately, six in 10 said they want troops to stay and help stabilize Iraq. The percentage of people who want troops to come home immediately has increased to 37 percent, up from 28 percent in November.

The findings on the Iraq war come from a poll of 1,000 adults conducted June 20-22 for The Associated Press by Ipsos, an international polling firm. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3 percentage points, larger for subgroups.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: apipsos; ipsos; iraq; majority; mistake; poll; pollsoniraq; texasflowerlies; war
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To: warchild9
Hey, I thought you went to bed!

And Rover there is probably crossing his legs, saying damn it warchild9, get over your ego thingy there, and don't balme me for the wet spot on the carpet.

Have a good evening. I'm still waiting to walk the dog, for heaven's sakes. He's not going to let me slide...(warchild9 reply #209)

221 posted on 06/25/2005 7:26:17 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: warchild9
Now, that wasn't so hard was it?

Freeper LS (Larry Schweikart) has writen a wonderful history book. You've got a hard act to follow.

A Patriot's History of the United States

222 posted on 06/25/2005 7:28:19 PM PDT by texasflower
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To: Dane; texasflower

The wife has shown herself, and I'm off for the evening. Everyone have a safe night.

Ta


223 posted on 06/25/2005 7:28:36 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9

Good night warchild.


224 posted on 06/25/2005 7:29:37 PM PDT by texasflower
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To: warchild9
"W claims that God speaks in his ear (specifically, He told him to invade Iraq). Historically, only saints and madmen take orders directly from the Almighty."
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I've seen you quote this on several threads and on each thread someone asks you for a source but you always just blow them off. Time to call bullshit. You are a troll.
Do you ever wonder if the reason you piss people off wherever you go may be because you are a jackass?
225 posted on 06/26/2005 6:51:20 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: warchild9; Dane; lugsoul; KevinDavis; tobyhill; jveritas

We've heard a lot of hot air and bravado from the keyboard blowhards. Dane, who wants to turn the Southwest over to the Zetas, went and called me Tokyo Rose for arguing that we are in a war of attrition with not just an Iraqi insurgency, but 10-25% of the Sunni Muslim world. A war that could last virtually forever given an inexhaustible recruiting base of jehadis. I pointed out these hard truths and the keyboard blowhards screamed "traitor" and "defeatist".

Apparently, Secretary Rumsfeld sees things a lot more soberly than the keyboard blowhards. He does not have the luxury of believing only what he wants to believe. The insurgency, he agrees, could go on for another decade at least (hardly death throes. Apparently General Abizaid gave him some hard home truths that are a lot stronger and more pessimistic than what he said to Congress.). And it can only be beaten in the end by Iraqis. We can't do that for them.

I suppose the keyboard blowhards are going to start calling Rumsfeld and Abizaid "traitor" and "defeatist".


226 posted on 06/27/2005 8:01:16 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

They are only emboldening the enemy. [snicker]


227 posted on 06/27/2005 8:03:31 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul; COEXERJ145; Dane; warchild9; tobyhill; KevinDavis; jveritas

Apparently Rumsfeld and Abizaid no longer share the optimism of the keyboard blowhard as to whether this war is militarily winable. In the absence of any serious effort to cut off funding from the Gulf or the flow of jehadis from Syria it's not.

What the keyboard blowhard does not comprehend is that the jehadi isn't a soldier. He's a warrior. The focus of the soldier is on military victory and in Iraq the insurgents cannot militarily win. The focus of the warrior is on glory and being a hero. Every jehadi who comes home from fighting the Americans will be a hero for the rest of his life to his countrymen. Given that appeal, the supply of recruits is inexhaustible.


228 posted on 06/27/2005 8:28:06 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham; COEXERJ145; Dane; tobyhill; KevinDavis; jveritas
Sam the Sham:

Yesterday Secretary Rumsfeld and General AbiZaid made the rounds of the Sunday talks show specifically to stand up and expose the lies and distortions of defeatist people like you, the liberals, their media whores, and the knee jerk phony conservatives who are telling us that we cannot win this war, we lost this war, we should cut and run, and all the other defeatist and cowardly statement they are saying each day.

Secretary Rumsfeld and General AbiZaid were very clear that we are winning this war and we are going to win this war, but it will take strong effort and determination to achieve it.

It is really amazing how are you using these two gentlemen and fabricating things about them where in reality what they said is exactly opposite to your defeatist attitude. President Bush will give a prime time speech tomorrow about the war in Iraq and he will tell us that we are winning this war and we will reach the ultimate victory. We will see how you are going to distort what he is going to say.

As I told before you need to go somewhere else and preach your defeatism, DU sounds a good place for people like you.

229 posted on 06/27/2005 9:55:54 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: jveritas

Apparently you only hear what you want to hear, no matter what is actually said and by whom.

Stubbornness is not sound policy.


230 posted on 06/27/2005 10:09:31 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

You are good at taking snippets from interviews to justify your defeatist attitude. Please read the complete interview before commenting on something you obviously have no idea about.


231 posted on 06/27/2005 10:13:48 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Sam the Sham
Here's a link in case you're new to the Internet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8332675/
232 posted on 06/27/2005 10:16:32 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Sam the Sham

Here's another link in case your interested.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050627/ap_on_re_mi_ea/britain_iraq


233 posted on 06/27/2005 10:20:59 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: warchild9

You make a very good point and the situation you describe is close to the Vietnam situation. Not everyone who was unhappy with our effort in Vietnam was opposed to our military. Many of us thought that too much of the work was carried by troops and not enough by: bombs. And dropping bombs and napalm on sparsely populated jungles doesn't have the effect of taking out the center of government and the power plants in an enemy capital. Ho Chi Up-In-Smoke.
Nothing makes an opponent quit like massive human loss delivered from afar. Cases in point: The war against Japan. The first Iraq war.
We used to laugh when Nixon would come on TV and glower into the TV" "Some have recommended that I nuke all of Southeast Asia but I won't do that."
No, do it and save our troops.
This is an opinion from someone (me) whose father would have died in the Tokyo invasion if we hadn't nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
War is really horrible and the more horrible you make it for your opponent the shorter it will be.


234 posted on 06/27/2005 10:37:25 AM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: Sam the Sham
Here you go Sam the Sham:

General Abizaid (CENTCOM): The insurgents can't win. We're the shield behind which politics and the development of Iraqi security forces will take place and eventually be decisive. And that we're in a partnership with the Iraqi people... This is not a quagmire. It is a marathon and we're at about the 21st mile, and we just need to not hit the wall. We need to get through to the end... They can't beat the Iraqi security forces. They can cause casualties. They don't really go after the Iraqi security forces. They go after Iraqi civilians. I mean, this is the most cynical strategy I've ever seen.

Just look at how things were in the American Army in 1775, 1776, as we think about the 4th of July holiday ahead of us. We had a terrible time getting our act together to win against the British, but ultimately we did, and that's what's going to happen with the Iraqi armed forces as well. They need time. They need help. That's what we're giving them.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/26/le.01.html

235 posted on 06/27/2005 6:42:14 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: jveritas
A day later (my computer was down)...THANKS for posting that excellent "excerpt" from Gen. Abizaid's remarks.

It's too bad you won't read that in your morning newspaper! All we get is Hagel and Graham saying "we're losing"...and the trumpeting of the absolutely least reliable/accurate polls.

I hope W gives 'em all hell tonite (pardon my language, but giving 'em "heck" just won't do it, LOL!)

236 posted on 06/28/2005 7:46:43 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: 88keys

The President will do great tonight :)


237 posted on 06/28/2005 7:52:59 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: Manic_Episode

Hmm...troll, maybe...
Jackass? More high school name calling.

I often don't quote sources because arguing on the internet isn't worth the trouble.

Only a twit gets excited about an internet argument.

Like there's something at stake. Ha.


238 posted on 06/28/2005 12:13:55 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: biggles1

"Let's bomb them back to the stone age..."

Hmmm....

Didn't work that time, either.


240 posted on 08/08/2005 7:22:52 PM PDT by warchild9
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