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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: MinuteGal; brigette
To me the slave trade scenario sounds preposterous too.

But OTOH, I think it's hard to say for those of us who have little knowledge of the seamier side of life in the Caribbean. Wasn't there another girl who disappeared from a cruise ship docking in Aruba a couple of years ago? Seems to me there were theories abounding that that was what had happened to her.

Anybody else see Greta van Susteren come on Shepard Smith's show at around 3:30pm today (Friday 6/25)?

Greta just voiced the theory that I've had for a couple of weeks now.

She proposed a scenario where Joran vdS and Natalee had been alone on the beach --not the remote one, but the one near the hotels-- and that Joran left her there to walk back to her hotel, which according to Greta is only 300-500 yards away.

She said that Natalee would have to have passed "hundreds of people" on that beach to get back to the hotel. (What time frame Greta was talking about, I don't know. But presumably she knows what she's talking about and knows there could be hundreds of people on that beach at whatever hour.)

Greta seems to think there's a good possibility someone else on the beach kidnapped Natalee after Joran left.

Greta continued to emphasize that "they should focus hard on Joran --BUT I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket. It could have been someone else and they should follow ALL leads." [paraphrased]

(Greta also didn't seem very focused on whatever implications might be drawn from Mr. van der Sloot's arrest. I got the impression she thinks that may be just a pressure tactic.)

The inevitable question of course is "If Joran didn't kill her, why then did he lie about dropping her off at the hotel?"

I don't know, but I do know teenagers lie about relatively small things when they're scared (so do many adults). Maybe he knew he'd done a wrong thing in abandoning her in a drunk state and was afraid of being in trouble for that.

Supporting that theory would be the report that one Surinamese boys told the security guard (one of the two who'd also been arrested) that they lied because they thought Natalee would show up unharmed in a day or two.

Anyway, I don't claim any special insight into who dunnit (nor if anyone done anything for that matter); am just relaying what Greta van Susteren now seems to think is a plausible scenario. And still praying that the girl is found alive.

821 posted on 06/24/2005 1:13:25 PM PDT by gingersnaps
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To: brigette

Thanks, I completely missed that it was old news. I can't keep up anymore!


822 posted on 06/24/2005 1:15:00 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: looney tune

bookmark bump


823 posted on 06/24/2005 1:15:34 PM PDT by looney tune
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To: texasbluebell

It's ok... Fox just confirmed it and received the correct wording for the charge. Most of us knew it late last night.


824 posted on 06/24/2005 1:16:28 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette

I never heard them say "premeditated" before. That part is the reason for the "Fox News Alert".


826 posted on 06/24/2005 1:21:46 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Lizarde

I am sort of surprised at how brutal the tactics are in Aruba,,


827 posted on 06/24/2005 1:22:59 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: gingersnaps
The inevitable question of course is "If Joran didn't kill her, why then did he lie about dropping her off at the hotel?"

He could have slipped her the drug, delivered her to be raped by a group, and then left her after his turn. The mother is adamant there are others involved and he knows what happened to her. He doesn't want to tell the truth about what he did but it is possible he does not know her end.

828 posted on 06/24/2005 1:23:58 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: gingersnaps
Supporting that theory would be the report that one Surinamese boys told the security guard (one of the two who'd also been arrested) that they lied because they thought Natalee would show up unharmed in a day or two.

Indicating they might of had their turns too and left her to the others

829 posted on 06/24/2005 1:25:50 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Lizarde

Let me preface this by saying that I think JVDS is guilty.

That said, I could see a father wishing for his son to be able to endure the rigors of repeated interrogations for false accusations ... and translating it badly.

(I don't, however, believe that that is the case here.)


830 posted on 06/24/2005 1:26:05 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: NCjim

Bookmark


832 posted on 06/24/2005 1:27:17 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

(Mumbles to self) I just CANNOT handle those theads "out there" today. The UnAppeasables and The Malcontents are out in full force.

I'm sticking with you guys.


833 posted on 06/24/2005 1:27:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: NCjim

Hiya, Jim.


834 posted on 06/24/2005 1:27:51 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Lizarde

ping


836 posted on 06/24/2005 1:32:05 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: Howlin
Mumbles to self) I just CANNOT handle those theads "out there" today. The UnAppeasables and The Malcontents are out in full force. I'm sticking with you guys.

This is a topic that brings all people of good will together, praying and hoping for Natalee to be delivered safely.

837 posted on 06/24/2005 1:34:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
He doesn't want to tell the truth about what he did but it is possible he does not know her end.

Yes, I think that's a plausible reason they're not getting any leads out of these boys -- because the boys just might not know what happened to her after they left.

An investigator who came on right after Greta seemed to be thinking in that direction too. He said the fact that investigators apparently weren't getting any helpful info out of any of the five boys arrested, after all this time, might be that there was little to get out of them [paraphrased].

838 posted on 06/24/2005 1:34:48 PM PDT by gingersnaps
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To: af_vet_1981

Don't I know it; I'm even agreeing with you. :-)


839 posted on 06/24/2005 1:37:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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