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To: MinuteGal; brigette
To me the slave trade scenario sounds preposterous too.

But OTOH, I think it's hard to say for those of us who have little knowledge of the seamier side of life in the Caribbean. Wasn't there another girl who disappeared from a cruise ship docking in Aruba a couple of years ago? Seems to me there were theories abounding that that was what had happened to her.

Anybody else see Greta van Susteren come on Shepard Smith's show at around 3:30pm today (Friday 6/25)?

Greta just voiced the theory that I've had for a couple of weeks now.

She proposed a scenario where Joran vdS and Natalee had been alone on the beach --not the remote one, but the one near the hotels-- and that Joran left her there to walk back to her hotel, which according to Greta is only 300-500 yards away.

She said that Natalee would have to have passed "hundreds of people" on that beach to get back to the hotel. (What time frame Greta was talking about, I don't know. But presumably she knows what she's talking about and knows there could be hundreds of people on that beach at whatever hour.)

Greta seems to think there's a good possibility someone else on the beach kidnapped Natalee after Joran left.

Greta continued to emphasize that "they should focus hard on Joran --BUT I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket. It could have been someone else and they should follow ALL leads." [paraphrased]

(Greta also didn't seem very focused on whatever implications might be drawn from Mr. van der Sloot's arrest. I got the impression she thinks that may be just a pressure tactic.)

The inevitable question of course is "If Joran didn't kill her, why then did he lie about dropping her off at the hotel?"

I don't know, but I do know teenagers lie about relatively small things when they're scared (so do many adults). Maybe he knew he'd done a wrong thing in abandoning her in a drunk state and was afraid of being in trouble for that.

Supporting that theory would be the report that one Surinamese boys told the security guard (one of the two who'd also been arrested) that they lied because they thought Natalee would show up unharmed in a day or two.

Anyway, I don't claim any special insight into who dunnit (nor if anyone done anything for that matter); am just relaying what Greta van Susteren now seems to think is a plausible scenario. And still praying that the girl is found alive.

821 posted on 06/24/2005 1:13:25 PM PDT by gingersnaps
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823 posted on 06/24/2005 1:15:34 PM PDT by looney tune
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To: gingersnaps
The inevitable question of course is "If Joran didn't kill her, why then did he lie about dropping her off at the hotel?"

He could have slipped her the drug, delivered her to be raped by a group, and then left her after his turn. The mother is adamant there are others involved and he knows what happened to her. He doesn't want to tell the truth about what he did but it is possible he does not know her end.

828 posted on 06/24/2005 1:23:58 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: gingersnaps
Supporting that theory would be the report that one Surinamese boys told the security guard (one of the two who'd also been arrested) that they lied because they thought Natalee would show up unharmed in a day or two.

Indicating they might of had their turns too and left her to the others

829 posted on 06/24/2005 1:25:50 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: gingersnaps

I heard Greta mention yesterday that it's possible somebody else took N from that beach after J left her, but I had the impression Greta mentioned this because it was certainly something Joran's defense team would say, not because she thought that's what actually happened. Remember, Greta questioned the VDS's and saw PVDS under pressure, and she's no dope.

The slave trade scenario is terrifying. Implausible to most of us because it's like falling off the side of a UFO, but the slave/prostitution trade is a thriving industry down there. Lots of money to be made, and that's evidently what happened to that other young woman who was kidnapped off the cruise ship a few years ago. Evil. Reminds me of the pedophile rings in Thailand and those places that got hit by that tsunami. They seem so bizarre and unlikely, but predator pedophiles plan actual vacations there for that specific purpose.


870 posted on 06/24/2005 2:46:12 PM PDT by hershey
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