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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: Pepper777
I think, they might believe the Dad of Juran is the King Pin in this case.

And I think media interest (public interest) in the case was hit or miss at the beginning. Now it is a storm ... and could be the deciding factor in my opinion.

501 posted on 06/23/2005 9:59:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: brigette
The use of GHB would make IT premeditated?

How long does it take GHB, etc. to kick in. Could one still walk around as normal as Natalee's friends stated that she was when leaving C&C.

502 posted on 06/23/2005 9:59:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggiefluffs
Transmission fluid inside the car??? That seems strange in light of the Mom of the two brothers, saying her son was so particular about his car.

Maybe this is the thing Deepak had to "fix" (work on) after he got home from work. Maybe he has worn out his transmission in his car and need to put some fluid in it.
503 posted on 06/23/2005 10:00:03 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: bluepistolero

your thinking of anti-freeze


504 posted on 06/23/2005 10:01:10 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: Howlin; bluepistolero
...Prosecutors office spokesperson Mariane Croes...

Just how incestuous is this island?

Is Mariane Croes any relation to Steve Croes, the arrested disc jockey?

505 posted on 06/23/2005 10:01:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Howlin; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Riehl World:

senor:

I know personally know or have met every Birmingham person bird mentioned in her post(except I am not sure which tailor she is referring to). I have heard of nothing even close to that story. Like everyone here, I hope there is some truth to that story, but it surely isn't reaching my circles. FWIW

Posted by: Bullshark | June 23, 2005 10:44 PM

506 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: bluepistolero

Oh wow!! That could be what happened too. Yikes.


507 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:36 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat
the holloway family has already paid a ransom to natalee's captors

No, they haven't. They know more than likely their daughter is dead. The only reason they aren't going to admit it on camera is because they are having a hard time just getting up each morning. They have to have hope or they couldn't go on. They are trying to focus on finding Natalee and taking her home (they really mean her body). They would be overjoyed to find Natalee alive but it's not really expected. What you don't see on camera is Natalee's family falling apart which they do in privacy at night when everyone else goes to bed. The face you see on camera is pure determination.

The search team starts tomorrow. The family will be having a tougher time once they start searching. They are expecting to find her. Juran had better hope he did a damn good job of getting rid of the body as should his father.

508 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TexKat

GHB will kill you if your given enough of it - Google it - it is pretty scary stuff. They may have gave her too much. It also can be made at home. Deepak may have dealt in GHB.


509 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:59 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette

Very good questions. It's tempting to latch onto internet conspiracies. But I do hope she is alive.


510 posted on 06/23/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Is Mariane Croes any relation to Steve Croes, the arrested disc jockey?

She says that she is not. Croes is as common as Smith.

511 posted on 06/23/2005 10:03:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

as little as 5 minutes and as long as 30 minutes, but he could have gave her several does while in the car. They may have had some booze with them in the car or even just a soda.

It takes very little of it to kill some women depending on their size and their reaction to it.


512 posted on 06/23/2005 10:05:01 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette

Yes, that too. Transmission fluid is mostly mineral oil, but is also toxic if swallowed.


513 posted on 06/23/2005 10:05:17 PM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No, but I understand that name is as common as "Smith" is in this country.


514 posted on 06/23/2005 10:06:30 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I just cannot get over this "premeditated murder" charge.

Do you know if any of Natalee's family has heard about the premeditated murder charges? Did they mention anything about it?

515 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No, they went over this on Greta. Croes is a common name in Aruba.


516 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:10 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: TexKat; bluepistolero
According to first reports the decapitated man's wife worked nights at one of the Aruba hotels.

That's interesting.

"First reports" are often the most accurate.

517 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: brigette

You're right, Brigette. Too much can kill.


518 posted on 06/23/2005 10:08:25 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat

I haven't heard of premeditated murder charges and can't find anything about it in the news. Is something going on as to charges?


519 posted on 06/23/2005 10:09:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: TexKat

I do not know, Tex; I was in and out tonight; my husband came home a day early, dang it!


520 posted on 06/23/2005 10:09:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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