Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
a snippet from SM:
2. All I know about this Charlie Croes discussion is the past 30 or so pages, so I have to go back and catch up. However, it sounds to me like it was the DEA agent from the HI lobby (who first connected with the chaperone) who then called C Croes for the cell info--*assuming* it's possible that the DEA guy does business on a regular basis with C Croes concerning the rental cell phones and their records.
It is likely that the person who connected Charles Croes to the Twitty's is the DEA agent we know was helping the Chaperone before the Twitty's arrived in Aruba - This makes sense on why his name and who he is was is such a big secret.
Thank you for the great job in consolidating and linking much of the information that led to my post. Like you, I find it slightly plausible that the VDS' could be in the center of this for other than the most obvious reasons. The cast of characters, PVDS' position, the seemingly inexplicable investigation path and the criminal element in Aruba make many angles worthy of consideration.
Like he did before from a phone booth by a McD's using a non-tracable pre-paid calling card. (I bet or PVDS never went home and Joran knew where to find him hanging out by the hotels.)
That's what made me wonder about the connection. Low-crime rate/then a slit throat murder/midst of Natalee's disappearance/media says no connection that same day/
I question it, like you - warning? or was he involved or knew something?
And now blame his girlfriend? That kind of murder plus dumping it in a cemetery? She would be capable of that?
The way I see it, his girlfriend will take the rap, she has no other choice.
And we will never know anything, no one would dare get too close to this case. I agree w/you - the type of killing was definitely a message.
I am tired so I am going to bed shortly.
Maybe tomorrow we will find out something about this mystery "call/recorded message" that was snuck into Greta's interview.
Prayers for Natalee and her family.
Please let her family find her soon.
Goodnite all...
Good night, brigette.
That was some odd interview. We need the transcript, which should be posted tomorrow, to make more sense of it.
Is the DEA agent named Strang or something like that. He has been on some of the news talk shows this past weekend and/or the beginning of this week.
Oops... I may start a new thread tomorrow if someone has not done so by time I get around to it. I was waiting for this one to reach 5000 posts.
Good night brigette.
The actual DEA agent will not be on TV. They protect their identities pretty well. Croes referred to him as a young man. I knew a DEA agent once and they really protect them. So who you saw on TV was probably not the actual DEA agent but might one of his supervisors.
I found the Strang guy. He is a private investigator. Robert Strang.
O'REILLY: < DMCA snip >...With us now is Robert Strang, CEO of Investigative Management Group and is former special agent with the drug enforcement agency.
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Robert Strang
Assistant United States Attorney, U.S. Department of Justice
Robert Strang has been an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York since 1997, and has been that office's Computer Telecommunications Coordinator since 1999, and one of the heads of its Computer Hacking and Intellectual Property Unit since it was formed last fall. He has prosecuted numerous cases involving computer intrusions, theft of intellectual property, and Internet and telecommunications fraud. Prior to working at the United States Attorney's Office, he was in private practice for four years at Davis Polk & Wardwell. He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude in 1988, and received his law degree from Columbia in 1991, where he was an articles editor for the Columbia Law Review. After graduation, he clerked for the Honorable Andrew J. Kleinfeld, United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Mr. Strang is currently an adjunct professor at Columbia Law School where he co-teaches a seminar on cybercrime.
O - Anything about this investigation trouble you?
Robert Strang - they don't have a lot of this kind of crime. Not a lot of homicide/kidnapping. Police trying to do their job.
O - each state has their own investigators. The Jessie case was botched. It feels like something is not there in ARuba - I can['t put my finger on it.
Robert - they had to let them out - no bodies, no crime - let them out to surveil. The dutch are going to get this right.
O - you can see the strain on the family. Last we talked the Arubans got mad @ me calling them a drug place
Robert - the proximity to Colombia - ships and airliners leaving every day. Hundreds of pounds of heroin & cocaine found there every year. Last thing they need is to have people look @ Aruba as a drug haven. Cases in the past, stats speak for themselves. Can't deny drugs pass through there.
Posted by Rose at June 20, 2005 08:09 PM
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Robert Strang - the idea is to get info on the case - no one is saying anything.
John - what about the "you're guilty so tell us" technique?
Robert - Good guy/bad guy technique - try to convince him to do the right thing.
John - Joran & the Kalpoes have all admitted they lied
Robert - minor lie - we're still not getting the details or a confession.
John - 17 y/o JVDS - self confident is getting hammered. His father knows the law - what's the interrogation of the father like?
Robert - they are pushing him. I think there are other things involved w/arresting the father. The hard drives, etc.
John - still no body - why would anyone confess?
Robert - that's the issue here - no body, no confession, no case.
Posted by Rose at June 24, 2005 08:59 PM
I just listened to Greta again. I think the phone call was made to Natalee's cell phone in Aruba. I'm assuming Beth got the message from Natalee's cell phone when she got there and picked up Natalee's phone. The person who contacted Charles Croes was in the states and was a mutual friend of Jug and Beth's. That is just my opinion not a fact.
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