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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: Howlin
How DARE you go away, and not let us know :)..I was worried about ya, you know. Was getting ready to call out the National Guard..LOL.

sw

3,481 posted on 06/28/2005 11:33:47 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: demkicker

You have Freepmail.


3,482 posted on 06/28/2005 11:38:12 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

This is from a tour someone took:

We have done jeep tours in the past, and wanted to try something different on this trip. We went on the Rumba Ramblers tours, and had a great time. You’ll have a guide who knows Aruba, and will be able to give you a lot of information. You’ll see the highlights, and you won’t get filthy like you do on a jeep tour. The car has a canvas covering, so you won’t get overheated sitting out under the hot sun. They pick you up at your hotel and bring you to a cunucu house for a continental breakfast (mimosas, danish, fresh fruit, coffee, etc.). You pay for the tour here, and make your choice for lunch. You leave by the back gate and drive through the cactus until you’re back on the road. You stop at the

****lighthouse, the coast to watch the pounding surf, Alto Vista Chapel, baby blow hole, gold mine ruins, *****old shark feeding grounds******, Natural Bridge, Ayo Rock formations, and the Donkey Sanctuary, and they have lemonade for whenever you’re thirsty.
After the tour, you have lunch at ****Carlos ‘N Charlies. In addition to the meal you ordered that morning, you get a fee drink of your choice. They also started us out with a shot of the Sex on the Beach drink, and then came around with a Sombrero and serape. When they put the Sombrero and serape on you,


they pour tequila down your throat. However, if you aren’t interested in doing this, they won’t force you.

Just google "aruba shark feeding grounds". I can't remember, but I think its near the lighthouse or the "natural bridge"


3,483 posted on 06/28/2005 11:39:32 AM PDT by eartotheground (now that someone has read the autopsy report, perhaps the MSM will change their stories? NAAH)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ? (2)

Latest developments in The Netherlands (Tuesday)On Monday night the Dutch news program NOVA covered the latest developments in the Natalee Holloway case and also interviewed Beth Holloway who indicated that after the release of Paul van der Sloot on Sunday, she is now more frustrated then before. During the program the reporter, who was transmitting live from Aruba, was asked by the presenter why the American media is dedicating so much attention to this case. The presenter said that this case is naturally awful but he doesn’t understand why out of the whole United States one missing girl is getting so much media attention. The reporter said that stories of missing American girls come along from time to time and most times one of the stories in particular is picked up by the American media and is broadly broadcasted. The reported continued by saying that after the networks see that the story is popular and that a lot of people a tuning in to see it, they continue to cover it as long as the ratings are high. The reporter also said that the Holloway family is ‘well-to-do’ and has many (political) connections and that this has certainly played a role in getting more media coverage.

Beth Holloway confirmed in NOVA that the second hand information she got indicated that Joran van der Sloot was/is a ‘player’ who was good at seducing and went especially after American girls who visit Aruba. At the end of the interview Beth said that she knows that Natalee is in Aruba and that she will never leave without her daughter. You can view the report by NOVA here.

Hasibokos.com has also learned that the Aruban justice minister, Rudy Croes, requested the Dutch government to get involved and defend the Aruban authorities who are conducting the case. According to Croes since the disappearance of Natelee Holloway, Aruba is being portrayed as a criminal paradise with a useless judicial system by the media. As Croes sees it, the reputation of both Aruba and The Netherlands are at stake here and he fears that this would have a negative long term effect on the Aruban tourism development.

3,484 posted on 06/28/2005 11:39:39 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: elli1


What are you implying? Southern justice?


3,485 posted on 06/28/2005 11:40:22 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Peach

Did you see where they were talking about "Here we sit, night after night, and nothing changes?" It was sad.


3,486 posted on 06/28/2005 11:41:13 AM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, liberal mofos!)
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To: TexKat
As Croes sees it, the reputation of both Aruba and The Netherlands are at stake here and he fears that this would have a negative long term effect on the Aruban tourism development.

This coming from the man who said Natalee was dead.

3,487 posted on 06/28/2005 11:42:20 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: johnb838
Did you see where they were talking about "Here we sit, night after night, and nothing changes?" It was sad.

Yes. And just begging for someone to help. It was horrible.

3,488 posted on 06/28/2005 11:43:09 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Trust but Verify; maggiefluffs
Well, you have to admit, we're not used to the way they do things in Aruba. We have learned alot about their legal system :)

I do think since Joran is sticking to this story, it would be prudent to check out the witnesses who saw a girl taken from the beach that early morning.

Playing Devil's advocate, it's possible that Joran was too embarrassed at first to admit he left her on the Beach. Natalee could have rebuffed his advances, and he stomped off in frustration leaving her behind, as if to say "to hell with you, girl"..

I realize it's not a popular thing to even suggest, but we do need to explore all avenues, IMHO.

sw

3,490 posted on 06/28/2005 11:43:52 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Trust but Verify


Sex slave? FGS!

JVDS lied from the get go. He knows what happened. Poor Natalee is just an expendable American tourist girl in the eyes of the elder VDS and his son. Certainly not worth ruining his son's great future.


3,491 posted on 06/28/2005 11:44:10 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: spectre

I want to know what Paulus did all day Monday.

And I also think that there is no way Natalee was Joran's "first."

Why aren't we hearing from other American girls who have had some sort of experience with him?


3,492 posted on 06/28/2005 11:44:26 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Trust but Verify
When someone goes missing here in America, and I suspect it happens every day, should the character of whole country or legal system be called into question?

Yes, it's what gets me out of bed in the morning.

3,493 posted on 06/28/2005 11:44:50 AM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, liberal mofos!)
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To: TexKat
a criminal paradise with a useless judicial system

Perhaps if they weren't so tight-liped w/no info on the investigation, they wouldn't be portrayed as "useless."

Maybe they might want to rethink their ivestigative non-information giving to the media.

3,494 posted on 06/28/2005 11:44:50 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: spectre


But that would have been the easiest lie. Instead they named the security guards. Nope, him leaving her on the beach, does not wash.


3,495 posted on 06/28/2005 11:46:10 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: johnb838
Yes, it's what gets me out of bed in the morning.

:-)

3,496 posted on 06/28/2005 11:46:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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Nova video: Beth Holloway Twitty

Amerika is in rep en roer door de vermissing van de Amerikaanse scholiere Natalee Holloway op Aruba.

3,497 posted on 06/28/2005 11:46:22 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onyx

I am only quoting others, the notion is preposterous. Some of the people who are so conversant on this topic discussed it at length. Every time I have tried to inject a little sanity into the discussion, I am ganged up on by the rest. Go figure.


3,498 posted on 06/28/2005 11:47:16 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: the Deejay
>>non-information giving to the media<<

I'm surprised the Aruban authorities have not kicked the media out already. Seems like I have seen FOX reporters involved in ways that would never fly here in th U.S.

3,499 posted on 06/28/2005 11:47:29 AM PDT by devane617
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To: TexKat
As Croes sees it, the reputation of both Aruba and The Netherlands are at stake here and he fears that this would have a negative long term effect on the Aruban tourism development.

This is the only thing I agree with Croes about.

3,500 posted on 06/28/2005 11:48:03 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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