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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Somebody at RW just posted that Aruba only has drug sniffing dogs. No cadaver dogs. Quarry 4 miles from vnds.


2,941 posted on 06/27/2005 1:04:28 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench
Quarry 4 miles from vnds.

hmmmm. Didn't realize it was that far from their house.

2,942 posted on 06/27/2005 1:06:53 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: NavyCanDo
This coverage highlights one family's tragedy but also serves to educate all of us of what appears to be a problem for travelers going to Aruba (targeting people on the last night of a cruise, for example).

I would like to see Aruba someday but will probably wait until Aruba can provide a safer environment. Is it safe everywhere but Aruba? No. But should I find myself traveling anytime soon (in or outside of the US), I will take the lessons learned from this tragedy with me so I have a better chance of not becoming a victim of crime.
2,943 posted on 06/27/2005 1:09:23 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: monkeywrench
It also just occurred to me that they had Natalee's clothes for the dogs to get a scent.

However, if jvds has DNA deposited on Natalee's body, that would not be inconsistent with what he has said. The only thing that I can think of that would be incriminating would be if there were wounds on jvds that indicated a struggle, and if this DNA were still able to be analyzed after this long, and in these conditions.

2,944 posted on 06/27/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by mumbo (Rules are for people who don't like to make decisions)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I have been reading all posts and replies for weeks. I am a new member. I have a theory, however, I do not know HTML. When the LE announced weeks back and then recounted the Death and finding of the body. And when Daddy found out about it he stepped in to handle the matter. The body was taken to his home, then disposed of, hence the cover-up. I surmise he told the LE where the body is, and he is freed.


2,945 posted on 06/27/2005 1:11:22 PM PDT by Li-Li (Induct Roger Maris into the Hall Of Fame)
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To: mumbo

Dumb question, but did Natalee have anything with her at the time of her disappearance like a purse, etc.? Surely she had some type of ID with her at least?


2,946 posted on 06/27/2005 1:12:10 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: pnz1

I don't know if this has been stated as a fact or not.


2,947 posted on 06/27/2005 1:14:12 PM PDT by mumbo (Rules are for people who don't like to make decisions)
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To: pnz1

Well, I am sure she was wearing
a dress (per what I was told in
a post the other day.)
A purse and shoes would be logical.

Her passport was w/her luggage in
her hotel room.


2,948 posted on 06/27/2005 1:14:33 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: hummingbird
Americans at Risk at Home and Abroad as Economics Drive Kidnappings

Aruba mentioned pre-Holloway

See the end for details. Arubans like to argue, I guess.

2,949 posted on 06/27/2005 1:14:36 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: TexKat
UPDATE:: We have word from multiple sources that divers are in the water at a quarry near the Van Der Sloots home. There are evidence flags up around the area. We will post as more information is available

I pray that they'll find her today and this nightmare can be over soon. Thank God for the Texas Equisearch Team!

2,950 posted on 06/27/2005 1:17:13 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: brigette

Check these out!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/natalee/message/488


2,951 posted on 06/27/2005 1:18:17 PM PDT by maggief
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To: All

I don't know if all of these pics are on these threads...if so, sorry for the duplicates.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-missinginaruba.gallery,0,3285479.photogallery?coll=sfla-home-headlines&index=1


2,952 posted on 06/27/2005 1:18:37 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: mumbo

It also just occurred to me that they had Natalee's clothes for the dogs to get a scent.

Supposedly these dogs are cadaver dogs. The dogs aren't sniffing for 'Natalee' specifically, they're sniffing for a human cadaver.

2,953 posted on 06/27/2005 1:18:55 PM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1
Yeah, I wondered about that, too. I wonder how they are trained for this task. Another trivial fact to learn, on top of so many others!

I pray that they fing this girl, her parents find some comfort in the closure, that God will lay His healing, soothing hand on her whole family, and that ...

whoever did this thing gets it good and hard.

2,955 posted on 06/27/2005 1:23:17 PM PDT by mumbo (Rules are for people who don't like to make decisions)
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To: Lizarde; pnz1

She did not have a purse with her - only money - purse was in room...

That's what I recall reading...purse, cell phone, passport were all in the room.

2,956 posted on 06/27/2005 1:23:32 PM PDT by elli1
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To: maggiefluffs
Are those pics. of the quarry?

Doesn't look like the black hole quarry I saw on FNC w/Greta last week.

2,957 posted on 06/27/2005 1:23:55 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

Without her body, everyone goes home. With her body, a circumstantial case is possible.


2,958 posted on 06/27/2005 1:23:55 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: wardaddy


FORFL! Yeah, you "axe" 'em and then get back to me...lol.


2,959 posted on 06/27/2005 1:24:45 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx
a circumstantial case is possible.

Not in Aruba, I dare say, not in Aruba.

2,960 posted on 06/27/2005 1:25:13 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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