Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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Anita VDS says her son did change his story.
He admits to being alone on the beach with Natalee - but that he did not hurt her. - PER FOX

[xsmommy]

what if her family was not down there raising hell, practically acting like....vigilantes...? this would be in the unsolved mysteries bin and life would be serene on the idyllic island of aruba.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

The mother of the Kalpoes said Thursday that one son had admitted he and his brother made up a cover story to protect Joran Van Der Sloot.

If that's the case, she raised some exceedingly stupid boys.

[demkicker]

But they don't have the regular search dogs along, so wouldn't be able to tell if she'd been there, alive.

Why? Will customs not let them in?

[stlnative]

No the dogs have to ride in the cabin of the plane - they offered to buy seats for the dogs. The problem is with a commercial airline and they are looking for the funds to hire private airline to take the dogs in with them.

[spectre]

Joran's Mother is saying that Joran changed his story and ADMITS he was alone with her on the beach...and left her there.

People telling the truth don't change their stories...

sw

[hershey]

Now evidently John Gibson is saying that Beth didn't say N might have been in that house at 3 am. But Mrs. VDSloot is now admitting her son changed his story. What's amazing in all this is how they change stories, bit by bit, admitting, okay, I was on the beach with her, but she was okay. This is how the police work and it's exactly what they say. Once you start changing your story, they know you're toast. Former FBI profiler, Pat Brown, a no nonsense woman, gave her take on what happened that night. She thinks N went with J to that beach, things got out of hand and she said NO. J felt entitled and things got rough and she ended up dead. He panicked, told his pals and his family, oh, my God, it's not my fault, what am I going to do? That's when the coverup began.

[stlnative]

This problem may have been solved already and the dogs may be on their way to Aruba, some of the team is already there.

[maggief]

Hmm, just now on Fox, a family friend by the name of Murphy, also searching for N, said there was misdirection going on by Papa Van der Sloot that night. They were told to leave and go to McD's, and suddenly Joran's back home. How?

Could you elaborate a bit, I'm confused? Thank you.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Anita VDS says her son did change his story. He admits to being alone on the beach with Natalee - but that he did not hurt her. - PER FOX

I thought his original story was that they all drove down to the lighthouse and then they brought her back and dropped her at the Holiday Inn?

I realize that Anita VDS wants to believe that her son (and now her husband) is/are innocent, but she might be better served to keep a lower profile at this point.

[GarySpFc]

He admits to being alone on the beach with Natalee - but that he did not hurt her. - PER FOX

And his latest story is that he left her on the beach. What kind of man leaves an pretty 18 year old woman on the beach after 1:30 AM in the morning?

[Conservababe]

The dogs are cadaver scent trained, only.

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HOLLOWAY'S AUNT TO HAVE NEWS CONF IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES

[demkicker]

what if her family was not down there raising hell, practically acting like....vigilantes...? this would be in the unsolved mysteries bin and life would be serene on the idyllic island of aruba.

I wholeheartedly agree! The family & media pressure are driving these arrests.... absolutely.

[hershey]

Equus searcher guy didn't say why the regular search dogs hadn't been brought to Aruba, but surely either the FBI or Aruban LE used search dogs in the past weeks looking for N. Most likely, Equus search believes N is dead and there's no point in bringing their regular search dogs, a reasonable assumption after all this time.

[Toespi]

Great, now we will get the facts.

[spectre]

Yes, and so Joran called his Dad for help, if ONLY to give him a ride back from where he was, but MAYBE he didn't tell his father he knew Natalee was dead?

OR she died in his apartment.

[demkicker]

And didn't one or more of them also say something about Natalee wanting to go see the sharks (yeah right), or was that just a rumor?

[maggief]

Wow, wonder what that's all about.

Great timing on the new thread, btw. :-D

[Peach]

I was just coming here to post that. Is it the first time we've heard that VDS changed his story?