Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Howlin]

Not at all.

I see you felt the need to drop by and sanctimoniously pontificate to the rest of us.

So dang typical.

[maggief]

They're tossing Greta out?!? Are they nuts?

[Howlin]

Isn't that the truth.

[spectre]

GERALDO..wow, what a hardship assignment. Plenty of sailing for him in Aruba. It's tough being a Reporter :)

sw

[Conservative Texan Mom]

I would think that if Joran withdrew money to give to Natalee to help out with her losses he would have done it before he met back up with her. Hate to say, but if he hoped to get something that night, it would have made a good impressiion. 3AM is awfully late for him to decide to be so generous.

[Howlin]

He will muck up this story and make it all about him.

[the Deejay]

NOT GERALDO!!!

LOL! Ah yes, indeedy. Taking his yaaaccchhhhttttttt.

Just hope he doesn't screw up.

[beyond the sea]

OTHER threads you love to post to

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Which ones, may you be so specific?

[maggief]

Geraldo has to have a scoop to hype his show. Wonder what BS he comes up with this time.

:-/

[WestCoastGal]

I think you're right about these guys.

The island of Aruba is a tourist mecca where lots of young women come for vacation and party time. They were living the high life of women, sex, alcohol and drugs. They were probably used to getting their way, taking advantage perhaps on the woman's last night on the island, maybe even using date rape drugs where the woman doesn't remember what happened. It's all about power and bragging rights for them I suspect.

Something went terribly wrong this time.

Yes there are a lot of other scenarios, but I can't get past this bunch lying over and over and over again. If they are innocent, why are they lying?

[spectre]

I'm sick of the stalking..

sw

[Howlin]

Don't anybody take the bait; he likes it.

[the Deejay]

They're tossing Greta out?!?

Not tossing, just has to leave, b/c there's no room at the inns....anywhere.

[CitizenM]

Greta stated that PVDS was the one to inform her about he and Joran being in the HI casino bar.

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Yes, I saw that statement last night too. My point has been: I did not see or hear that he actually met Natalee. He probably saw all the kids there, weren't there a bunch of them? But, true, that might have been what caught the ears of the LE if he had not mentioned that to them before, and so they are questioning precisely what the nature of his knowledge of her was - sight of her from across the room or an actual, up close "meeting."

However, I would think they had already established that he had been at the Casino with Joran, so I would also assume they would believe he could have "seen" her, as well as others, there. The actual "meeting" of Natalee, IIRC, has not been actually stated. If you find it, or hear it, I would love to know. That would be significant, I have stated previously.

[Howlin]

If they are innocent, why are they lying?

Exactly.

If nothing happened, there's nothing to lie about, is there?

[spectre]

You know...You came here to disrupt the thread, you said your piece, now please have some class and exit gracefully..

sw

[Howlin]

Yeah, but she said that on Thursday and she was still there on Friday night!

I'm gonna be SICK if they use him instead of her.

[GarySpFc]

HOLLOWAY: To my knowledge, they have had a psychic come in. I don't know what the outcome of that was.

Natalee's mom or aunt said they had a psychic offer her services early in the investigation. The psychic said she was in contact with Natalee. Beth asked, "Please ask Natalee the name of the dog she loves?"

[beyond the sea]

He will muck up this story and make it all about him.

There you go again.... referring to another poster without doing what you repeatedly command others to do...... ping them when they are referred to.

You can be quite the hypocrite.