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High Court: Govts Can Take Property for Econ Development
Bloomberg News

Posted on 06/23/2005 7:30:08 AM PDT by Helmholtz

U.S. Supreme Court says cities have broad powers to take property.


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To: Lazamataz
"It just won't pay to own land."

Sure it will. If you can morph into a cockroach.

1,381 posted on 06/24/2005 10:42:12 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: lentulusgracchus
No, they won't -- not yours.

You seem not to get it. The Bushes are Business Wing Republicans, Yacht Clubbers who use the law and government and "principles" the way you use a knife and fork: they only work when they're a one-way conveyor belt.

Hamiltonian business Republicans don't have principles, they have bank accounts. That is the fundamental division within the Republican Party.


I think to make it much shorter, Michael Savage calls them "the Country Club Republicans who wear the checkered golf pants." I see the division too, I'm just a poor, working class, conservative, White, single, "Pittsburgh Hunky." The Democrats have given up the common person a long time ago with their social liberalism while the Republicans are selling out to their business interest. I'll never vote Democrat but voting for the Republicans is becoming a harder and harder sell to me. I'm glad the Justices who are conservative or seen so, stood up for what is right but still, I think the Supreme Court is corrupt and like other courts, see themselves as gods.
1,382 posted on 06/24/2005 10:43:09 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: RebelTex

Signed!


1,383 posted on 06/24/2005 10:50:31 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Lazamataz; montag813

"I have come to the conclusion that Bush is not a friend of freedom."

Laz you are such a liar. I'm sick of seeing this crap you post...of course George Bush is a friend of freedom..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................FOR OPEN BORDERS AND ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


























1,384 posted on 06/24/2005 10:55:08 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: Lazamataz; montag813

Whoops, dammit the joke was ruined by the formatting.
the "punchline" should have read "for open borders and illegal aliens"


1,385 posted on 06/24/2005 10:56:17 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: Helmholtz

The Socialist Libs are pushing everything through the courts because that is where they have the most power. Abolish the Supreme Court! Term limits for the Supremes! Unless we DO something, they are just going to trample over all our rights! Even ones enumerated in the Constitution. Ah, nevermind, go back to sleep!


1,386 posted on 06/24/2005 10:58:27 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (This tagline can be confiscated by the government.)
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To: SittinYonder

No problem. I sure have changed my views since the election. I used to believe that Republicans were the "good guys" who just didn't have a backbone. I'm sure they are in their heart of hearts, but they've been far too silent on one too many issues for me to think that anymore. Where the hell is Bush on this SCOTUS ruling? A real president who cared about the American people would have called a press conference immediately after this ruling and gone on a full scale attack mode against this judicial tyranny. All I hear are crickets chirping. The silence is deafening......


1,387 posted on 06/24/2005 10:59:46 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: Lazamataz
I have come to the conclusion that Bush is not a friend of freedom

Makes me sick...The guy I voted for supports authoritarian paternalism over freedom.
There is no difference between Republican and Democrat politicians. They are both members of the Establishment Party.
1,388 posted on 06/24/2005 11:04:55 AM PDT by mugs99
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To: Lazamataz

"It just won't pay to own land."

Oh yes it will!
I am among those who benefit greatly from yesterday's decision. Foreign (and American) investors like to invest in US real estate development, because labor costs are low, taxes are relatively low, local governments are usually very friendly to getting as much money as they can, and the profits are high.
The difficulties that usually loom in my deals are usually threats of environmental problems (these ebb or flow depending on whether business-friendly or environmentalist-friendly regulators sit in Washington. Business-friendly regulators are not as keen on enforcement), and problems assembling land: the "lone holdout" who won't sell her house and demands an extortionate price.

Yesterday's decision was a godsend for real estate development. Town councils are made up of local businessmen, and they're always ready to cut a deal.
Individuals can no longer block development. If the town council wants to go ahead with a plan we negotiate, the lone holdout will now be removed and paid something reasonable, as opposed to the extortionate prices they always demand. Quick condemnation of private property is great for investors in land development.
Including lots of French ones.


1,389 posted on 06/24/2005 11:07:12 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Necrovore

"Too bad that no one will take a stand on this."

Let me re-paste what I said in a reply to another FReeper:

"Where the hell is Bush on this SCOTUS ruling? A real president who cared about the American people would have called a press conference immediately after this ruling and gone on a full scale attack mode against this judicial tyranny. All I hear are crickets chirping. The silence is deafening......"

Of course, I recognize that there probably isnt anything that Bush can do, but bringing attention to the issue and renouncing this communist ruling would bring attention to it.

I no longer care about any other issue...why should I be afraid of terrorists attacking us when a government trending communist now poses more of an immediate threat to it's own citizens via a land grab?

Why should I care about social security when the government can take something that's worth far more any retirement plan could ever give me...my property!


1,390 posted on 06/24/2005 11:08:13 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

"Unless we DO something, they are just going to trample over all our rights!"

We're not going to do anything, and they know it. We're just going to bend over and Baaa! Baaa! like the good little sheeple that we are.


1,391 posted on 06/24/2005 11:10:00 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: montag813
There are areas which will have no impact from this ruling, and that is where buyers should focus. That was my point. I am not naive. I do a large amount of real estate activity and am well aware of individual ED laws in each state.

Please name one such area. Think being in an established neighborhood is safe? So did the people in Bridgeton, Missouri who had their newer middle class homes demolished for an unnecessary airport expansion in Saint Louis. Think being out in the country is safe? Perhaps, until a hog raising operation decides it wants your land to build an operation.

This decision has opened the door for corporate interests to totally change they way in which they choose and obtain real estate in America. It is a disaster of unmitigated proportions.
1,392 posted on 06/24/2005 11:13:26 AM PDT by Old_Mil
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To: lentulusgracchus

Smart move, you'd have already lost unless you think Janice Rogers brown is a "RINO".


1,393 posted on 06/24/2005 11:14:04 AM PDT by jwalsh07 ("Su casa es mi casa!" SCOTUS 6/23/05)
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To: Justanobody
Roe vs. Wade did not end the US as we know it.

It most certainly did.

1,394 posted on 06/24/2005 11:15:38 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (I miss Terri - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: Vicomte13
Individuals can no longer block development.

Read: Individuals can no longer own their land if you see a way you can profit.

I'm glad this Soviet-style ruling makes you money. After all, that's all that counts, right?

1,395 posted on 06/24/2005 11:16:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"We're not going to do anything, and they know it. We're just going to bend over and Baaa! Baaa! like the good little sheeple that we are."

And the reason Americans will do that is because they do not want to fundamentally realign their constitutional structure.
To stop these things from happening, they need to do that. It's the only way.
But the "US Constitution" has become practically an idol to so many Americans, that any fundamental change in it is assailed as "un-American".

Caught in the cognitive dissonance of the need to change something sacred, most Americans will default to apathy.

Of course, most land will not be seized. Only that which is necessary for the development projects of my clients.
America just made itself a much more attractive target for high-end European real estate investment. It is hard to assemble land anywhere. America just made it a lot easier.
That means more foreign investment...all those Euros that can't be effectively invested in Paris or Bordeaux because the land cannot be gotten so easily.

The Supreme Court certainly struck a blow for free market capitalism in land transactions. Land is, after all, just another commodity. Those with the greatest means who can negotiate the best deals should, in a free market, be able to oust those who make less economically efficient uses of it. The US Supreme Court would seem to agree. Certainly my industry approves!


1,396 posted on 06/24/2005 11:18:10 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: montag813

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Great to hear you're all contacting your representatives. Thanks! I'm e-mailing the White House contact info and hyperlinks to the Senate directory and House directory to everyone I know. From what I understand, eight states already have laws banning the seizure of private property for this type of use; there are 42 of us left to get something done. It sounds as though state laws are our recourse for this outrageous decision.

Hopefully, readers of this post will find these links to be helpful.

1,397 posted on 06/24/2005 11:19:58 AM PDT by Pirate21 (Bush-Cheney-Rice-Rumsfeld -- The Awesome Foursome)
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To: Vicomte13
The Supreme Court certainly struck a blow for free market capitalism in land transactions.

I didn't know it was possible to pack so much bs in one sentence. Congrats.

1,398 posted on 06/24/2005 11:20:33 AM PDT by jwalsh07 ("Su casa es mi casa!" SCOTUS 6/23/05)
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To: Vicomte13
The Supreme Court certainly struck a blow for free market capitalism in land transactions. Land is, after all, just another commodity. Those with the greatest means who can negotiate the best deals should, in a free market, be able to oust those who make less economically efficient uses of it. The US Supreme Court would seem to agree. Certainly my industry approves!

In Nazi Germany, you could make soap quite cheaply from all the fat you could render from the Jews.

Perhaps you'd cheer that too.

1,399 posted on 06/24/2005 11:23:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: minnesotared
Basically the only reason you can hold onto your property is if it is not considered valueable enough to seize by big business. You have your land because the goverment is giving you permission to stay there for the moment.

Excellent comments. Welcome to FR : )

1,400 posted on 06/24/2005 11:25:03 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!...End Black Collar Crime)
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