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To: flaglady47
"She wasn't disabled, she was brain dead."

She was disabled. She had severe brain damage. She was viscously killed, by being slowly dehydrated to death, in front of her mother and father, who only wanted to take her home and care for her. There were cops in the room to make sure that her mom/dad, who raised her from a baby, couldn't put even one drop of water on her drying cracked lips. They weren't "allowed" to comfort their dying daughter. That's just sick. (though she wasn't "dying" until the hospice stopped giving her food and water).

The Hospice, police department, judges and lawyers who let this happen, and any FReepers who supported it, are a disgrace.( This was done based on the hearsay testimony of her adulterous husband, who didn't remember, until 7 years later and a monetary award for her therapy- (that was not provided) his wifes "wishes"?)

She smiled at seeing her mother and family. She was showing some response all the way to the end- that's not brain dead.. unless you're going to say that the priests and others who visited her all the way to the end were lying about what they saw. She seems to have had some function, even if it wasn't enough to allow her to stay alive, according to you. Only 100% healthy people get to live in your world.

She was never given a chance to live. She was never given the proper tests, not even a swallow test.The tests were not allowed, that might have saved her life, or, might have proved she was "brain dead" as you say. No one wanted to be sure that she was "brain dead" before they murdered her. She wasn't even given the chance to see if she could learn to swallow. Oh, and she was not "allowed" to be seen in public. She was not "allowed " to be photographed or filmed. No reporter was "allowed" to see her. She was kept under very tight control. She's been cremated, no tests or independent results are possible .( No judge should be able to deny a test, when someone's life is at stake.)

Now the Dr. Thugmartin, who refused to have his autopsy overseen by another, comes out with his autopsy "results". I don't buy it.

Once again, just like in everything else connected to this case, something was denied/covered up/refused. That's all Terri's case is- denials, refusals to test, cover ups and sealed records. I don't believe this "report". I have no reason to believe it. It was not independently reviewed. In fact Felos wanted his ex-wife to give the report. She also, along with everyone else in the case ,is either pro euthanasia, or belongs to the kill-the-disabled-save-the-world religion of SScientology.

By the way, I was wondering who else you think should be exterminated. Do you think kids with cancer should be snuffed out? After all, what "quality of life" do they have? They live in almost constant pain. They can't do what healthy children can do. Their treatment is expensive. They will probably die anyway- Shall we kill them? Have you seen the story about the little girl Alex- of Alex's Lemonade Stand? She only lived to be 8. Her parents spent a fortune trying to keep her alive. Maybe they shouldn't have bothered?

How about the mentally retarded. Should they be killed? Burn victims have a lower quality of life- How about the blind, deaf? I'm not kidding either. I want an answer to these questions from you. Have you ever spent any time in the company of a disabled person or persons?

Maybe you need to make an effort to educate yourself about people who live with disabilities, cognitive , or neurological disorders in particular, before you go spouting off about "brain dead" and "zombie".

While your at it go find someone who actually has a feeding tube, so you can learn something about it. Seems to me, that you don't know jack about what you're talking about. Afraid of the disabled are you?

620 posted on 06/16/2005 3:01:12 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( "Where there's life, there's hope"-Terri Schindler's message to the world-Never forget)
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To: Pajamajan

Questions for you, and for others to ponder...

Do you think a person's right to refuse hydration/nutrition should be denied?

Do you think a less barbaric means of deliverance should be available for those who don't wish to remain in a PVS?

Do you think parents should have precedence over their adult children's spouses?

Do you think the armed forces of the State should be called in to overturn, by force, our court system decisions?

Do you believe individuals have no right to decide whether or not to continue their lives, for whatever condition they are in?

Do you value life over rights? "People" over individuals?

Do you realize that while you call others coldblooded, there are some who look at you that way...feeling that you have no compassion for those who would not want their body to be kept going?


624 posted on 06/16/2005 3:24:26 AM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: Pajamajan

Do something constructive and bake some cookiers.


634 posted on 06/16/2005 5:22:06 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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To: Pajamajan
who only wanted to take her home and care for her.

At one point, they had her home for three weeks. They sent her back to the care facility because they couldn't take care of her.

unless you're going to say that the priests and others who visited her all the way to the end were lying about what they saw.

Perhaps "extreme wishful thinking" is kinder than "lying". The 'testimony' of Fr. Pavone, in particular, is absurd.

The tests were not allowed

Untrue. She had intense therapy, and repeated testing. Her condition was determined to be unrecoverable.

Dr. Thugmartin

A pathetic attempt to demonize yet another person who disagreed with your alternate reality version of events.

I don't buy it.

Of course you don't. You have bought every bit of rumor and speculation hook, line and sinker. All contradictory data, therefore, must be due to human evil and a vast conspiracy.

636 posted on 06/16/2005 5:31:16 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Pajamajan

While your at it go find someone who actually has a feeding tube, so you can learn something about it. Seems to me, that you don't know jack about what you're talking about. Afraid of the disabled are you?

You know, you really need to learn how to exist on something other than pure raw emotion. That's what Dems exist on, their emotions. You'd fit right in.


826 posted on 06/16/2005 12:50:03 PM PDT by flaglady47
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