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Majority of Americans Favour Iraq Troop Withdrawal
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Posted on 06/14/2005 1:37:41 PM PDT by phoenix_004

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To: Fred Nerks

Thx Freddie...a completely BS thread that has an underlying point of importance.


81 posted on 06/14/2005 5:36:02 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is the wolf at the door. Shall we pet it...or kill it)
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To: Justanobody

Then we must deal with the eternal problem. Satan, come on down (and bring your religion...Islam...with you).


82 posted on 06/14/2005 5:38:43 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is the wolf at the door. Shall we pet it...or kill it)
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To: Dark Skies

"...a completely BS thread that has an underlying point of importance."

Ha! The only poll that counts is WHO IS THE POTUS?


83 posted on 06/14/2005 5:39:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: phoenix_004
Jun. 8.....Feb. 6.....Jan. 16
Send more troops
10% ..... 10% ..... 24%

Keep as it is now
26% ..... 38% ..... 26%

Withdraw some troops
31% ..... 32% ..... 21%

Withdraw all troops
28% ..... 17% ..... 25%

If George W. Bush decides to send more troops to Iraq, would you be upset, or not?

Yes, upset ................... No, not upset
Jun. 2005 - 56% ............. 37%
Sept. 2004 - 40% ............. 53%

Source: Gallup / CNN / USA Today Methodology: Telephone interviews to 1,004 American adults, conducted from Jun. 6 to Jun. 8, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.

More BS from the LSM.

84 posted on 06/14/2005 5:44:03 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: Justanobody
I agree they of course they disobeyed thus the problem still exists....Satan doesn't change just the faces....but there were men in those days who really did seek Gods plan to snuff it out...just as there is today....unfortunately we also have in this country a bunch of weak humans who can't stand the fight....

I think as a country we will some day answer to God on why we allowed some things to carry on when it should have been dealt with....it is NOT a coincidence that we are the mightest nation on this planet....
85 posted on 06/14/2005 5:49:46 PM PDT by PaulaB (Jesus is coming......Are you ready?)
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To: PaulaB
I agree with everything you just stated. I would like to comment on just this -

....but there were men in those days who really did seek Gods plan to snuff it out...

Yes, there were - but they fell short, as we all do. I also believe there are good men today who really seek God's plan as well. Unfortunately, we have to many enemies within pushing their PC crap etc.

In regards to your tag - YES.

86 posted on 06/14/2005 5:58:48 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: Normal4me; Dark Skies; Fred Nerks
Whatever dude, let's go and kill a billion people then because of the book they read.

Ummmmm, nice straw man. Then again, it's easier to put words into peoples mouths than to refute what they really said.

BTW, I'm still wondering how you would define "radical Islamist" as opposed to "moderate Muslim" and how one may discern the difference?

Which one would be guilty of corrupting pure Islam, or Bidah, and which would be emulating the examples of Muhammed himself?

What parts of the Koran and hadeeths does one ignore... and why would someone ignore certain Fiqh or not be obligated to Taqlid?

87 posted on 06/14/2005 6:03:32 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Normal4me

It's what they do after reading the book that bothers me.

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/for_beslan_children.html

What kind of people would conceive and perpetrate a scheme that would lead to the burning, mutilation and death of 350 young children as was done in the school this week in Russia? What dogma was responsible for motivating Islamic women earlier this week to strap bombs to their bodies and board two Russian aircraft filled with passengers for the purpose of blowing them up and killing everyone?

What doctrine was professed by the suicide bombers who shouted “Allahu Akbar” before they murdered 20 Jews this week in Beersheba, Israel? Was it the same religion professed by the Muslims who decapitated a Nepalese worker in Iraq, and blew out the brains of a dozen more, while shouting verses from the Qur’an? Could Islam be the reason the Islamic cleric in Iraq motivated his Jihadist militia to torture, rape and desecrate Iraqis who wouldn’t join in the terrorist raids, piling hundreds of mutilated and naked bodies behind a mosque?

When Osama bin Laden praised Allah and Islam for the success of the 9/11 terrorist attack and said “I am following in Muhammad’s footsteps,” do you think that he might have been telling us something important? Could it have been a confession? Since the first bombing of the World Trade Center in ’93 was perpetrated by Shiek Ar-Rahman, the world’s foremost authority on the Qur’an, might we assume that Islam’s scriptures condone terror? Are these vicious attacks perpetrated in the name of Islam and Allah unrelated? Are they just the misguided acts of random people, or do those we call terrorists, rebels, and insurgents have something in common—Islam perhaps?

...read more...http://prophetofdoom.net/


88 posted on 06/14/2005 6:15:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Dark Skies
Nice article Fred.

The Saud swine Naif (aka Nayeef, Nayef etc... I think his mother was unsure of who his father was) was the one who opined, in a post 9/11 whine-a-thon, that "zionists" were responsible. I'm sure he still looks out for our white ships when ever he's down at the beach.

As for the POTUS... I still love this quote:

"I don't think a photo inspires murderers. These people are motivated by a vision of the world that is backward and barbaric." - George W. Bush

Time to send the vile ideology that is the "root cause" of their deluded vision to history's unmarked grave of discarded lies....

89 posted on 06/14/2005 6:18:59 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF

"Time to send the vile ideology that is the "root cause" of their deluded vision to history's unmarked grave of discarded lies...."

Sounds good to me, now hand me that spade!


90 posted on 06/14/2005 6:39:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Huck

They are all in the same bed together and they are all out to kill us.

Syria is controlled by a Baathist regime which is feeding "insurgents" into Iraq to destablize it. So is Iran which is also trying desparately to build a nuclear bomb so they use it - on us or the small numbers of allies we have.

Whatever the reasons for going into Iraq first - and there were many - we have made a policy decision to try and set up a stable government there. Such a result will be impossible if we leave the present regimes operating in Iran and Syria.

As for Saudi Arabia, Wahhabist clerics are the backbone of anti-American, anti-western terrorist groups. And Saudi Arabia is their capital and their banker and we have allowed these demons to set up shop right here in America.


91 posted on 06/14/2005 7:24:44 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Justanobody
LOL....glad you like the tag

Falling short is not an excuse....yes we are human and yes nothing we do will be absolutely correct...but that doesn't mean we don't try....

Why we do we have so many that don't even want to try? Thats what gets me steamed

When did we become a country of wimps?
92 posted on 06/14/2005 7:58:12 PM PDT by PaulaB (Jesus is coming......Are you ready?)
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To: PaulaB
Yes, we must keep up the good fight. No, we can no longer afford to lose. Too many do not know what is at stake here. So, we pray.

For a bit of good news - have you seen this?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422955/posts

It appears our cowboy is back and loaded for bear, or demonRAT.

93 posted on 06/14/2005 9:38:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: ZULU
Whatever the reasons for going into Iraq first - ... if we leave the present regimes operating in Iran and Syria.

STRATEGERY! Look at a map and your first comment will make all the sense in the world, coupled with all the other reasons for going to Iraq first. IMHO

94 posted on 06/14/2005 10:00:05 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: PaulaB

"When did we become a country of wimps?"

Sometime between the Korean War and the Viet Nam War.

The Democrat Party, liberal socialists, Hollyweird, the Mainstream Media and the Teaching "profession" have all contributed to it.


95 posted on 06/15/2005 4:29:45 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Justanobody

"CNN and USA Today"

Says it all. Communist Network News and the notorious Gannett Gang.


96 posted on 06/15/2005 4:31:10 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Says it all.

Yep...the only reason to even look at a poll is to DEBUNK it!

97 posted on 06/15/2005 6:34:37 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Do we really have 41,000 (prox) in Japan and S Korea and
and 75,000 in Germany? Am I reading that chart correctly?


98 posted on 06/15/2005 6:45:33 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: Huck
So you would like to go back to the "glorious days of LBJ and MacNamara" where they had all kinds of measures for success--such as body counts, along with the use of "limited force" which ties the hands of our valiant men in the combat zone?
99 posted on 06/15/2005 6:59:57 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
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To: Justanobody
It sure looks that way. The site accounts for deployments to Iraq in addition to those from other areas - so it would seem that those troops which might be stationed in Germany or Japan and have been sent to Iraq have been accounted for in the Iraq total.

Those troops would better serve this country as a wall against the waves of terrorists who must be sneaking across our southern border. But I hate it when I have to endure calls for an exit strategy from nincompoops and socialists. It is never thrown back in their faces that we are still in position 50 years after the end of their last really big war.

100 posted on 06/15/2005 7:01:37 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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