[trussell]

Secondary moral...

Teach your boys that when a lady says "NO", it means "NO"

[skaterboy]

if only no really meant no all the time but sadly lots of girls play lots of games...poor kid made one mistake and it cost her dearly...hang them high

[Zeein]

Right!
I also teach my boys to stay away from stupid girls who
have NO respect of herself or her body.

[Goodgirlinred]

Exactly!!! Also, teach them to treat all females like ladies, even if they don't always think they are ladies.

[krb]

Teach your boys that when a lady says "NO", it means "NO"

While that may be a great idea, I don't know what it has to do with this case. There is no evidence she said "NO" to anything. All we know is that these guys killed her, and should be treated like predators until we learn more of the details.

[WLR]

"no means no". Is another of those cute mindless phrases like "Guns Kill" .

No means no when you are a sober and responsible adult.. it means nothing when you and your associates are acting in a diminished capacity due to drugs or alcohol. It is unfortunate she was killed. . . . Nonetheless I have 3 daughters and a son (7,16,18,23)

I tell my son (the oldest) Most young women are mindless idiots and I will have no sympathy for him if he gets drunk or takes drugs and or associates himself with drunken and or drugged out women regardless.... they are poison. That he must be treat the young women of today like the dangerous bipolar, bile filled PC "Ladies" that far to many are.

As we speak I am once again telling my girls I will show them no sympathy if they run around alone or in a group, day or night drunk and or acting like tramps.

As I said this to my daughters, I asked them

Do you know why?

My oldest just now as I write replied.

"Because she put herself in that situation".

My girls are a heck of a lot more attractive than the murdered girl..

They are also better educated as to their personal responsibilities for their own personal safety.

[TChad]

Ah, the old “No means no.” Sorry, but phrased that way I think it is bad advice.

It sounds too much like this: "As a young male your sexuality makes you so stupid that you probably believe it is OK to rape women. Well, it is not OK, because as your moral superior I say it is not OK."

Instead, try: “If a woman tells you to stop, and you don’t, you increase the risk that you will be publicly accused of rape. The accusation alone may be enough to ruin your life, even if she consented in every way but verbally.”

The latter appeals to a young man’s self interest. It is less patronizing than “No means no,” and doesn’t invite his retaliation against parental authority. Besides, experience will eventually teach him that “no” does not always mean “no,” just as “I really want to” doesn’t always mean what it says.

Also, while we’re at it, how about pointing out to young women that they shouldn’t say “no” unless they actually mean it? “Don’t say ‘no’ to increase the sexual tension, and don’t say ‘no’ to avoid accepting responsibility for your own sexuality. Say ‘yes’ and mean it, or say ‘no’ and mean it. Anything else is manipulative.”

[MonaMars]

"Secondary moral...

Teach your boys that when a lady says "NO", it means "NO""

I posted nearly the same thing before seeing your response. Too many parents do not teach their sons how to behave. They lecture their daughters, but send their sons out the door with a wink. There are two groups that need to be educated in this equation.

[Sofa King]

I'm not too sure that the upstanding citizens that did this were too keen on listening to what their parents tried to teach them.