Posted on 06/10/2005 9:40:20 PM PDT by orionblamblam
Insult. Stop making excuses for what you did.
But I can see why you'd put me on your 'ignore' list. You've lost every argument you've had with me. And you usually run away after I've beaten you with the facts.
I don't blame you for taking the easy way out, though, Jr. It makes your life far less complicated, I'm sure.
Bull puckey. It's not an insult, it's an observation. Here's a test: Give us some POSITIVE evidence for the creationist position. Can't? Thought so. So now you're left with nothing but sniping at evolution and playing word games to bolster yourself.
BTW, it's a common creationist tactic to scream "insult" every time an accurate observation is made of their methods. It's a bit like the Democrats, actually.
P.S.: It's been seven years and I still have never seen any POSITIVE evidence for creationism. I don't expect you'll supply any either, but you will get your panties in a wad and huff about being "insulted" to distract from that.
I've been listening to Boortz too much lately, and my tolerance level for the perpetually-offended has dropped considerably.
And I LOVE the comparison of those of us who belive in Creation as described in Scripture (a conservative position, if there ever was one) with Democrats! Such an amazingly funny contortion of reality. Thanks for the laugh.....
Also having read a number of crevo threads and being part of a few, I find your 'nothing POSITIVE' about creation most amusing as well. I guess you see what you want to see, eh?
Nice to talk with you again, JR.
Here's an article you might find interesting: Age of the Universe
Creationists use the same techniques as Democrats. They avoid the evidence, and when they find themselves losing an argument, they trot out the "Nazi" tag (and the "commie" tag, too, which you'll never hear from a Democrat). They also perpetually scream about "Christian bashing" to cover their poor qualifications for this fight.
Now, like I asked, do you actually have any POSITIVE evidence for the creationist position?
Yes God created man essentialy as we are. No evolution involved whatsoever. No change into another species, survival of the fittest. As per the parenthes, fine, if that is truly what you intended.
In reference to your demand that I come up with something 'positive' let me begin with this caveat. We, as Creationists have been put in a defensive posture because our classrooms have been inundated with teachers and professors following textbooks that have continued to teach guesswork as fact, so we have been forced to try to prove what is NOT as opposed to what IS.
Scientists who come up with positive evidence for creation are censured or fired. Students who challenge teachers with evidence contrary to the evolutionary philosophy are punished with lower grades or ridiculed. Even here on this forum, we are repeatedly called stupid..........or worse.
The positive evidence for creation can be found in the intricacy of nature; in the encoding of the extraordinary material for producing protein and the building blocks of life in a DNA molecule that defy any Darwinian mechanism; in the human body - it's functions and reproduction; but most profoundly in the human spirit, creative ability and abstract thinking, that cannot be explained by your 19th century materialistic philosophy.
The very fact that you are bright enough to question your Creator is evidence that you were created, and not the product of an impersonal process such as evolution.
You got "unproovable" from a book showing how scientific controversies are resolved? Amazing.
What you see any that abandoned GOD becasue they thought that "E" was right???
Darwin did!
I'm not talking about a political choice, I'm talking about a logical choice.
You have a theory in which there are multiple entities, which are not contingent to each other, producing the same result. If your theory were a scientific paper, then peer review would no doubt warrant that one of the mechanisms be discarded, unless you can logically reconcile them.
Just saying that they are compatible doesn't cut it, especially when there are obvious empirical (the fossil record) logical (multiple entities) and theological (Genesis 1&2) conflicts
Adaptation doesn't infer evolution. In fact, I could say that man, being a living soul, and having the awareness and intelligence of such, can easily adapt just fine without invoking evolution [and in particular, natural selection]
Now, if it is true that man evolved, and his awareness and intelligence is contingent to that mechanism...then how is he unique from any other living creature on this planet that is evolving.
Your position, as comfortable as it may make you feel, simply does not make sense....empirically, logically, philosophically, and theologically.
Convince me otherwise.....
So, is that "broad" or "narrow?" You're answering a question I didn't ask, and not answering a question I did.
* Those in favor of the "broad" definition of "Creationism" (God did it, maybe evolution, maybe not)
Posts: 9 (USAFJeeper), 12 (AndrewC), 16 (Triggerhippie), 18 (spinestein), 47 (chronic_loser) and of course my friend
* Those in favor of the "narrow" definition of "Creationism" (God did it via "poof")
Posts: 15 (MitchellC), 19 (thomaswest), 20 (Bonaparte), 22 (taxesareforever), 43 (Alamo-Girl), 48 (Fester Chugabrew), 54 (PatrickHenry), 58 (VadeRetro), 75 (Manic_Episode), 78 (ohioWfan) and of course me.
"Poof"..............I LIKE that. :o)
As I said from my very first post. You are really looking for an argument.
> You are really looking for an argument.
No. I'm looking for a general consensus on what the word "Creationist" means to Freepers. It seemed a simple enough question to answer. But most people seem to want to avoid answering it. *YOU* haven't answered it. Why not?
I'm pinging Alamo-girl to this because I think she said she is not a poofist.
There are those who believe that science is completely valid from the human perspective of time.
Put me down as Creationism == narrow {poof}ism
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