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Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
6-7-2005

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:35:36 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: MAWG
This from a guy who defines himself as a Metrosexual.

Sure. And your point is? Or are you just rambling?

It has been 9 days since the girl disappeared. And, I think it is a mistake to expect much from the " authorities " in Aruba.

Just as an example, here in DC Chandra Levy's murder has not been solved after a couple of years. Do you want to invade DC and kill innocent people here, too?

The Arubian police and authorities have little experience with murder cases for the simple reason that there are so few murders in Aruba for them to actually investigate. They've asked the FBI and other American officials to help with the investigation. The government gave all civil service workers the day off a couple of days ago to help with the search. By all accounts, the Arubian government has done everything in their power to find this girl.

And yet, internet blowhards puff up their chests and demand that we send in Marines. To do what, exactly, kill a bunch of innocent people and wreck a peaceful, American-friendly country?

I'll say this- thankfully, the adults are in charge in DC. If you proposed your plan to the President, he would probably have you carted off to the local looney bin for evaluation.

441 posted on 06/08/2005 9:23:20 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: spectre

We don't have a clue as to what connected the girl with the two men picked up. Presumably one of the original three men said they'd passed her on to the two after an hour or two on the beach where she no doubt raped them. (sarc.) They probably drugged her back in the bar. So where were her friends? The kids should have been told not to go anywhere alone. But, the two men say they have rock solid alibis and never saw the girl.


442 posted on 06/08/2005 9:27:20 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Quilla
Could you please provide a source for these statements?

Yes, myself.

443 posted on 06/08/2005 9:28:34 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: CyberAnt

Hmm, they said on tv that there were 43 chaperones for the 130 plus kids. Sounds like an awful lot of grownups, if true, but clearly not enough.


444 posted on 06/08/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Rippersnapper

I can't believe she went off willingly with three strange men...without at least a girlfriend to go to the bathroom with.


445 posted on 06/08/2005 9:35:00 AM PDT by hershey
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To: combat_boots

The school has said it wasn't a school-sponsored trip, but something this particular group of parents/kids had done before, several times. So the school can't be sued.


447 posted on 06/08/2005 9:39:11 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
There is a definite link that evening between Natalee and the three men. That much we know to be factual.

Now, I heard on CTV, that the Judge says there is enough evidence to hold the two security guards...OK What?

I'd feel more comfortable knowing what that evidence is before I go off convicting them of this crime, if only from my prior lessons on FR case threads :~)

I WANT the killers of Natalee to be caught. And yes, I think she is dead. Such a tragic waste of a beautiful life.

Be back later...sw

448 posted on 06/08/2005 9:42:54 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: af_vet_1981

Or they need to find what's left of her or whom they sold her to. This is a really horrible story, and you can thank PC indoctrination our kids get in school every day for her lack of common sense. Multiculturalism. Everyone of color and ethnicity is good. Whites are inherently evil and take advantage of everyone else, especially American whites. That whites are made to feel guilty if they see a couple of black kids coming and cross the street at night. See the premise of that new movie with Sandra Bullock, 'Crash'.


449 posted on 06/08/2005 9:45:15 AM PDT by hershey
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To: MAWG
You're making my case for me. Before you know it, it will be mid July and we still wont know where the girl is or what happened to her unless we get more directly involved

And what do you propose? How exactly should the US go about pushing around a democratic country? Knowing, of course, that such tactics inevitably backfire and that any smart defense lawyer would be able to use the political pressure as a defense and claim that his clients were being railroaded to appease Uncle Sam.

Perhaps you should leave this investigation to the professionals who are now involved and go back to doing whatever the heck it is you do with your time.

450 posted on 06/08/2005 9:47:08 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: hershey
Multiculturalism. Everyone of color and ethnicity is good. Whites are inherently evil and take advantage of everyone else, especially American whites.

The only one playing the race card here is you. Of the five people of interest in this case, at least one is white. She didn't get into a car with the two black guys charged with her murder

451 posted on 06/08/2005 9:49:27 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Blessed

Early on in the case, the news on tv was that Natalee hit on the original three for sex; it was all her idea. Oh, sure, she wanted to be gang-banged. Not. She was doped or drugged.


452 posted on 06/08/2005 9:50:17 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Modernman

Why dont you go pick nits out of your Yorkys ass. This is a discussion thread. We were discussing the case til you butted in. Go and bother somebody else, Mary.


453 posted on 06/08/2005 9:53:23 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: MAWG

I don't buy their story of her having willing sex with the three guys, either, esp. since one is the son of a judge. That's so....familiar...blame the victim! She wanted it! Oh, it's a baby 4 months old? Never mind, she kicked her legs seductively when I changed her diaper. Please. If these guys get off, and I include the original 3, who if they had been decent, would have walked her inside that hotel, then Aruba deserves to lose its tourist business for good.


454 posted on 06/08/2005 9:54:25 AM PDT by hershey
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To: JeffAtlanta

TV reporters have said half the island is developed for the tourist trade, but the other half is, to use their word, 'decrepit'. There is a thriving drug and prostitution trade in the Caribbean, and slavery, white and otherwise, is alive and well.


455 posted on 06/08/2005 9:56:51 AM PDT by hershey
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To: MAWG
Why dont you go pick nits out of your Yorkys ass.

I'll take your inability to come back with a civil reply as a concession on your part that you don't actually have any intelligent points to make.

We were discussing the case til you butted in.

Some people on this thread certainly were. You, on the other hand, were calling for an invasion of Aruba. I'm just doing my FR duty and pointing out the stupidity of such an idea.

Go and bother somebody else, Mary.

You're posting on a public forum. You don't get to tell people whether or not they can post to you.

456 posted on 06/08/2005 9:59:52 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: JeffAtlanta

The Aruban paper has an article that says the three said they did have consensual sex with her. Not just an internet rumor.


457 posted on 06/08/2005 10:00:00 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

"who if they had been decent, would have walked her inside that hotel,"

You bet. Three boys take off with Natalee but they are cleared in a nano-second. Odd, isn't it?


458 posted on 06/08/2005 10:01:07 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: hershey

I've heard numbers all over the place. I have no idea how many chaperones were actually there.


459 posted on 06/08/2005 10:03:00 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: JeffAtlanta

If, as the witness says, she got into the car with one man behind the wheel...and the other two were ducked down, as if hiding in the back seat, then she didn't know she was going off with three men.


460 posted on 06/08/2005 10:06:37 AM PDT by hershey
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