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Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
6-7-2005

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:35:36 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

The two suspects arrested in connection with the disappearance have just been charged with murder, homicide and kidnapping leading to homicide.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nataleeholloway; nitpick; notfunny
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To: MAWG

They are lying(3) and perps as well. If not for them, we would not be discussing this horrific murder. Their (MO) is to go to these clubs drug women and rape them. All five were involved and planned this rape (turned murder). Have you noticed no "out cry" or condemnation from our (Politicians)? We will not, since it was not their daughter. President Bush where are you on this matter? He must be too, concerned about kissing the illegals asses and giving 50 billion to the PA.(terrorist) Maybe this is arubian logic thinking(date rape drugged is consensual sex)Do you think we will see justice for this crime? NSNR


221 posted on 06/07/2005 4:34:27 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: spectre; All

Can I try a possible scenario.. She's given GHB at the club..goes off with the three boys. They rape her..drop her off at the hotel,..She's hysterical..ashamed..didn't want to face anybody in her group..( and again..did she have roomates..why was she in a single room) so she runs outside..stumbles over the other two clowns..they grab her, rape her, and kill her..


222 posted on 06/07/2005 4:35:20 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: mabelkitty

'the aruba daily' is apparently an online 'newspaper'. We don't know if it's a reliable source or not.


223 posted on 06/07/2005 4:35:33 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: mabelkitty

yeah but Newsweek had its own unnamed source that recanted

we all know the internet AND the MSM media can be notoriously unreliable

let's just agree we are all speculating at this point because we just are saddened and horrified that it looks like this case isn't going to have a happy ending and we want to see justice done....

until you get official police statements and even then, the facts can change because the police are relying on certain witnesses and evidence which could be found to be unreliable or discredited later or have another explanation


224 posted on 06/07/2005 4:35:54 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: texasbluebell

I hope the FBI has this information.
This changes context dramatically.


225 posted on 06/07/2005 4:37:20 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: ken5050
Can I try a possible scenario.. She's given GHB at the club..goes off with the three boys.

Yet her friends say that she got into the car willingly. That blows a big hole into your GHB theory.

226 posted on 06/07/2005 4:37:42 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

You don't really want the POTUS running around with his hair on fire and making a fool of himself like you do you? At this point in time, unlike you, the rest of us don't KNOW what happened.


227 posted on 06/07/2005 4:38:18 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
They are lying(3) and perps as well.

Please share your info that shows that they are lying.

228 posted on 06/07/2005 4:38:58 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: maggiefluffs

Well, isn't that a revealing photo...?

I see A Current Affair identified him as the son of a judge too.


229 posted on 06/07/2005 4:39:24 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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Links:

http://www.aruba.com/news/index.html

http://www.arubatoday.com/week/tuesday/#


230 posted on 06/07/2005 4:39:57 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: texasbluebell

What is revealing about the photo?


231 posted on 06/07/2005 4:40:30 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: mabelkitty

Well, I hope whoever reported it originally, from her hometown, has let authorities know.


232 posted on 06/07/2005 4:40:50 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: maggiefluffs

Hi, Maggs.
Glad to see the they are being fair and showing the characters of the others involved.
William Kennedy Smith, no?


233 posted on 06/07/2005 4:41:37 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: JeffAtlanta

She knew the boys casually..it was reported..so they slip her one..she's malleable..they steer her off..figurte it's her last night on the island..she won't make a scene..justr get on her plane tomorrow..it makes some sense..


234 posted on 06/07/2005 4:42:19 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: Trust but Verify

He's got a leash in his hands, a leash attached to what appears to be a naked woman. Though it could be a man, it's hard to tell. Warped sense of humor.


235 posted on 06/07/2005 4:42:19 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: JeffAtlanta

if we believe the internet rumour, it sounds to me like this girl and perhaps her friends have been hanging with these guys for more than just that night, which would explain why she may have felt she could trust them, the Dutch guy looks like he is only about 20ish, about the same age as these other kids, ie by that time they weren't strangers...or they didn't seem like strangers - usually if guys are real creeps that manifests itself pretty soon, though not always......she may have gone off with these three guys before and they were well behaved gentlemen, maybe some of the kids on the trip have vouched for these guys?


236 posted on 06/07/2005 4:42:30 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: JeffAtlanta

It's on this thread.
AM Digital.
How did you blow past it?


237 posted on 06/07/2005 4:43:32 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: littlelilac

Good point, and who has exclusive jurisdiction? (Aruba)Do you really believe we are going to see justice? I do not think so, but if wrong I will bow out gracefully. NSNR


238 posted on 06/07/2005 4:44:13 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Not to give your wild theory affirmation, but I am reminded of the Max Factor heir who did that and ran off to Mexico before he got nailed by the bounty hunter.


239 posted on 06/07/2005 4:44:32 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
" Do you think we will see justice for this crime?"

Not the kind I have in mind. Colt Auto. 10 mm. Black Talons. Base of the skull. I just heard on Fox News that a lawyer for one of the two arrested stated " Both of the scurity guards will be formally charged tomorrow with SUSPICION of murder and kidnapping." Suspicion? Sounds to me like an Aruban legal maneuver to keep them in custody until a body or more evidence is obtained. I think it is time we pulled a Grenada Op. on their asses. Seal Teams 1,2 and 3 backed up by a Battalion of Marines. Enough of this shit already!

240 posted on 06/07/2005 4:44:46 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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