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End Of Days: When America Falls
Mens Daily ^ | 6/4/05 | Bob Newman

Posted on 06/04/2005 12:04:01 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

No country lasts forever. That’s an inarguable fact.

History reveals three primary reasons why countries fall, governments change and ways of life vanish.

The Taliban, Saddam, Nazis and many other governments fell because of war with other nations.

Revolutions brought on by internal strife, an insurgency, social unrest and disillusionment, reduced respect and admiration of the nation’s military (note that the Marines and Army are finding it very difficult and sometimes impossible to meet their recruiting goals), loss or reduction of social values and norms, and political extremism bring down some governments. Examples include Iran in 1979, France in the late 18 th Century, China in the late 1940s, and Mexico and Russia in the early 20 th Century.

Sometimes governments just quit for a variety of reasons, resulting in ethnic fragmentation, like in the case of the Soviet Union.

Perhaps you noted that America is currently suffering from two of the three aforementioned reasons why countries fall.

Right now, America is fighting a type of war–global asymmetric warfare–that has never been fought before by any nation. Our enemies wear no uniforms, abide by no rules, attack civilian targets, are in 90 countries including our own and want every American dead and the country destroyed.

We are suffering from political extremism mostly on the left; a clear reduction of social values and norms; widespread disillusionment when it comes to the war, social issues, politics, and the economy; and even some strife (a huge homeless population, high bankruptcy rate, a massive illegal alien population consisting of between 16 and 20 million people, etc.).

What makes many Americans think America is invulnerable to collapse or destruction? Such a belief is spectacularly arrogant.

History applies to all countries. According to history, we are far more at risk than what most Americans believe.

Extremists in the media (the Denver Post’s Reggie Rivers, the Rocky Mountain News’ Jason Salzman, the New York Times’ Tom Friedman, Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd; Bill Moyers, Air America’s Al Franken, Michael Moore, Barbra Streisand, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, Ed Asner, et al), politics (Howard Dean, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Rep. Barbara Boxer, Sen. Ted Kennedy, Sen. John Kerry, Sen. Robert Byrd, et al), and our collective societal commode (Ward Churchill, Louis Farrakhan, et al) are trying to dramatically change America as we know it. From their influential (upon many Americans suffering from muddy thinking) positions, such radicals fuel the flames of hate and discontent among those who are repulsed by the very idea of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Fury, frustration and disbelief replace reason and respect when these types are forced to accept major political losses and when they realize most Americans disagree with their fanatical agendas. Their shrill fanaticism acts as an accelerant in creating an emotional inferno among the followers of such would-be tyrants, which increases the chances America falling while advancing the time line for our demise.

Nevertheless, many if not most Americans, in their complacency and ignorance of history, believe we have no reason to worry; that America will always exist regardless of history and the threats currently facing our nation.

How very, very wrong they are.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 06/04/2005 12:04:03 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I thought I was the only one with thoughts this dour. I literally fear for the continued existance of this country. Of course, I am branded a whacko if I express it.


2 posted on 06/04/2005 12:08:09 PM PDT by Pusterfuss (You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right. LBJ)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

marker


3 posted on 06/04/2005 12:11:04 PM PDT by ezo4 (rats spread disease)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

YAWN


4 posted on 06/04/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
No country lasts forever. That's an inarguable fact.

It's true. Once upon a time, there was a place called England. One day, it just vanished. It was near the spot where the ancient nations of France and Spain and Portugal and Holland once stood. All gone. I woke up this morning, smoking hole where Canada used to be.

It's spooky, man.

5 posted on 06/04/2005 12:11:21 PM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
What a great stupidity from Bob Newman. There is significant difference for America and the previous fallen governments, which are the barrier of the seas. If any country would attempt to invade America, they will face billions of militias that are armed ready to resist any invasion. The only two countries on the border of America does not have such a power to defeat US. Terrorism? You can't defeat a country by external non-state based terrorism. His comparisons are nothing but comparing oranges with apples, and nothing but a communist day dream.
6 posted on 06/04/2005 12:12:43 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I would agree if the title were "End Of Days, When CBS Falls"


7 posted on 06/04/2005 12:15:39 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."

President Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981

8 posted on 06/04/2005 12:16:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Pusterfuss
I thought I was the only one with thoughts this dour. I literally fear for the continued existance of this country. Of course, I am branded a whacko if I express it.

You are far from being a whacko... Just prepare for the civil war. I won't enjoy it, but am oddly looking forward to it...

9 posted on 06/04/2005 12:16:11 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
[No country lasts forever. That’s an inarguable fact.]


I'll argue against that statement.

It's non falsifiable (forever hasn't arrived yet) so it cannot be a proved fact.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in.
10 posted on 06/04/2005 12:16:59 PM PDT by spinestein (If the media dealt in numbers instead of words, journalists would be called embezzlers)
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To: Wiz

A deer-hunter behind every tree, as Stalin said.


11 posted on 06/04/2005 12:17:18 PM PDT by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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To: Pusterfuss

Someday the Sun will go nova. Someday you'll die. Deal with it.


12 posted on 06/04/2005 12:21:23 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

13 posted on 06/04/2005 12:23:41 PM PDT by StoneGiant
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To: Wiz
What a great stupidity from Bob Newman. There is significant difference for America and the previous fallen governments, which are the barrier of the seas. If any country would attempt to invade America, they will face billions of militias that are armed ready to resist any invasion. The only two countries on the border of America does not have such a power to defeat US. Terrorism? You can't defeat a country by external non-state based terrorism. His comparisons are nothing but comparing oranges with apples, and nothing but a communist day dream.

Ah...but you didn't address (as did the original post) the enemy within.

14 posted on 06/04/2005 12:24:39 PM PDT by infocats
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... the enemy within ... the most insidious and deadly ...
too many different sources or groups making a clamor and demands against the good of the nation. We are in a very dangerous time and the fragmentization is increasing. God help us.


15 posted on 06/04/2005 12:25:18 PM PDT by Countyline
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To: Wiz
"they will face billions of militias that are armed ready to resist any invasion."

Wow, I have been gone for only 6 months. Did the population grow THAT much? Hmm, I thought the total was only 300 mil, and much of that is brain dead.

Yes, I can see the US going to pieces.
I am sure that Rome had the same confidence that you have.
16 posted on 06/04/2005 12:25:54 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Pray and work.

Work and pray.

Take back control of your kids, take back control of your own life, take back control of your schools or build new ones. Take back control of your party or build a new one. Talk, write, work, pray.

And, just remember, the kids over in Iraq and Afghanistan are the finest soldiers we have ever fielded, and they are all coming home to take their place in this society. That will mean something, although we don't yet see it, as they each transform their piece of the world, just by being in it.


17 posted on 06/04/2005 12:30:48 PM PDT by marron
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To: infocats
The end won't be a great cataclysm but rather a small sigh as the door is closed on my cell. Liberty will die to the applause of the masses, for to many good men and women are doing nothing to defend it.

There will never be an external enemy strong enough to over power us , but we will and are willingly giving away our freedom everyday.
18 posted on 06/04/2005 12:31:43 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Pusterfuss
America's current state of decline is readily explained, but not irreversible. Our founders established a system which affirmed and relied upon Natural Law to minimize the need for the codified laws of government.

We have abandoned, if not virtually outlawed the notion that there is such a thing as Natural Law. Society has been led to marginalize those that cling to such antiquated notions as moral absolutes. Our founders envisioned a society where the people were self governing and capable of correctly disposing of coarse, offensive, and immoral behavior through its intolerance of such. Now, the intolerance of immorality is the offending behavior that demands exile. During our descent we have been told that we must reject the notion of a higher authority. Now we are told that disbelief is no longer adequate, but fashion demands we act in open defiance of the same higher authority we were told does not exist, and nobody sees the absurdity of this.

As soon as we reject the notion of moral absolutes, we reject the existence of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and undermine the very pilings on which this nations was built.

We have met the enemy and he is us. God save us from ourselves.

19 posted on 06/04/2005 12:31:43 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Pusterfuss

Have been reading Allen Drury's Advice & Consent series for the past two weeks. What was inconceivable when he wrote (and we were reading) in the '60s is almost commonplace now. I swear today's democrat talking points come right from the mouths of Frankly Unctious, Fred Van Ackerman, Ted Jason.


20 posted on 06/04/2005 12:34:17 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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