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U.S. confirms Gitmo soldier kicked Quran
Arizona Daily Star - AP ^ | Jun 3, 2005 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 06/03/2005 4:38:21 PM PDT by Kokojmudd

By ROBERT BURNS AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Pentagon on Friday confirmed for the first time that a U.S. soldier deliberately kicked a Guantanamo Bay prisoner's Muslim holy book in violation of the military's rules for handling the Quran.

In other confirmed incidents, prison guards threw water balloons in a cell block, causing an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet; a guard's urine splashed on a detainee and his Quran; an interrogator stepped on a Quran during an interrogation; and a two-word obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.

The findings are among the results of an investigation last month by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, the commander of the detention center in Cuba, that was triggered by a Newsweek magazine report - later retracted - that a U.S. soldier had flushed one Guantanamo Bay detainee's Quran down a toilet.

The story stirred worldwide controversy and the Bush administration blamed it for deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan.

Last week, Hood disclosed that he had confirmed five cases of mishandling of the Quran, but he refused to provide details. Allegations of Quran desecration at Guantanamo Bay have led to anti-American passions in many Muslim nations, although Pentagon officials have insisted that the problems were relatively minor and that U.S. commanders have gone to great lengths to enable detainees to practice their religion in captivity.

Hood said last week that he found no credible evidence that a Quran was ever flushed down a toilet. He said a prisoner who was reported to have complained to an FBI agent in 2002 that a military guard threw a Quran in the toilet has since told Hood's investigators that he never witnessed any form of Quran desecration.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: associatedpee; cary; flushitagain; gitmo; koran; korandefication; korandesecration; newsweek; sepofkoranandstate
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To: Cornpone

Well, Im really sick of these stories....I just might order a free Koran from CAIR....Im running low on toilet tissue...LOL


161 posted on 06/03/2005 7:57:17 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The real Supreme Court meets up here!.......God)
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To: Cornpone

Bill O'Reilly had the same theory last night on his show---

That the MSM and the dems are "conspiring" to use the AG and the Gitmo "torture" stories to impeach President Bush--

His guest was Laura Ingraham, and she said the same thing that you did---that red-state America is too busy living their lives and really don't care about AG and Gitmo, because we (red staters) KNOW that these are NOT the military's ways...just a few idiots with uniforms on...


162 posted on 06/03/2005 8:02:54 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: wardaddy
"I wonder if McArthur would have been angry if a Marine pissed on the Rising Sun in view of some Jap suicidal maniac-soldier.

I think the PC sensitivity regs have ruined a lot of good military brass or at least their judgement."


We need a little Japanese style militarism in this country. Somebody get those Japanese soldiers found in the Philippines and put them in charge of DOD.
163 posted on 06/03/2005 8:04:21 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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To: Pukin Dog
Liberalism is a mental disease.

Another Savage infidel.

I say videotape swine trampling and deficating on the Koran in pools of their own swill with a segment of a nuclear blast at the end - - send millions of copies to the Middle East by dropping them out of C-130s over every city from Tripoli to Indonesia...

164 posted on 06/03/2005 8:06:54 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Kokojmudd
We need a little Japanese style militarism in this country.

A little Japanese style militarism in Japan would be nice too... no more worries about North Korea or China for the United States...

165 posted on 06/03/2005 8:10:42 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Savage Infidel? Please explain.


166 posted on 06/03/2005 8:10:56 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: bourbon

The best way to protect our Americans abroad, is to make these Islamo-Fascists sh*t-birds KNOW that each and every time that they look cross-eyed at an American, their butt is grass and we are the lawnmower.

These maggots don't understand anything less.


167 posted on 06/03/2005 8:20:59 PM PDT by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: shield
Who cares...it's just a friggin book...nothing more...


I beg your pardon...it's much more than, "just a book"


First of all if you tear enough pages out of it, it makes a nice liner for a bird cage...

Secondly, if you keep one in your vehicle it may come in handy for those sudden emergency stops...Use two pages...(2 Ply)

Do I need to go on?!
168 posted on 06/03/2005 8:26:29 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: bourbon

Well, by publishing this report in this manner the Pentagon has opened the gates of hell. Maybe they believe openess is the best policy but... Well, it's hard to say. Are we in a WW2 style global conflict here?

The Newsweek report impact will be nothing compared to the reaction to this. Especially the vagueness about the urine... Is this going to be clarified?

What a mess.


169 posted on 06/03/2005 8:28:17 PM PDT by TFine80
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To: Howie66

I agree, but pissing on a Koran doesn't do crap. If we bombed Syria and Tehran and North Korea, that would send the message though...

This report shows weakness. If we were truly tough, we wouldn't pretend to give a crap.


170 posted on 06/03/2005 8:31:59 PM PDT by TFine80
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To: Kokojmudd

"The Pentagon on Friday confirmed for the first time that a U.S. soldier deliberately kicked a Guantanamo Bay prisoner's Muslim holy book "

Hey but he did not put under wear on it or through it in a pile of naked prisoners building a human pyramid.

So he should be okay right?


171 posted on 06/03/2005 8:33:48 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Kokojmudd

If I was in charge each of these cavemen would have a koran shoved up his ass right before I hanged the SOB. Then I would have a detail p*ss on their dead carcass.


172 posted on 06/03/2005 8:37:03 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Kokojmudd

"Soldier kicked Koran".............Oh, the horror of it all!


173 posted on 06/03/2005 8:38:20 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: Kokojmudd

Will someone please explain to me how it is that liberals defend terrorist's rights to practice their religion but they deny Christian U. S. citizens the same right???


174 posted on 06/03/2005 8:43:24 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: marblehead17

"You're so right and we should feed them pork."

LOL! Great idea!! Pork and beans!!!


175 posted on 06/03/2005 8:47:19 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Cornpone

"Who gives a Shiite?...listen closely as I drop kick one of my five versions of the Qur'an across the floor for my cats to chase...Cornpone"

In a way you're right. In my view there's nothing morally wrong with throwing a book around. The problem with this is that it's a POLITICAL problem. For Muslims, it's worse to kick a Quran than to physically torture someone (probably even murder); and for that reason, the military should avoid doing it AND THE PRESS SHOULD NOT REPORT IT.


176 posted on 06/03/2005 8:49:55 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: marblehead17

"You're so right and we should feed them pork. Some good eastern NC BBQ with a vinegar based sauce(the best). Oh, and serve it to them on pages of the Koran."

That's actually a good idea for an interrogation method, I think. Lock them up in a room for days with the option of eating only pork. I'd like to see the MSM spin that one: "US military offends Islamic sensibilities."


177 posted on 06/03/2005 8:52:04 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: TFine80

Let's start by making each and every member of the ACLU and the MSM wear a readily identifable marking on their chest......

I'll bet a dollar to a donut-hole that this Bravo Sierra would come to a screaching halt in about 10 minutes.....


178 posted on 06/03/2005 8:52:49 PM PDT by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Patriot from Philly

" What's with AP's obsession with this minutia?"

As I just said to someone else: What makes mishandling the Koran a big deal is the repercussions from adherents to that religion that considers it a bigger crime to insult its prophet and his book than to kill civilians.

I think we should look at this from a political point of view: Muslims would be less angered by torture than by kicking the Koran. Therefore it's obvious that the AP wants to see some dead Americans.


179 posted on 06/03/2005 8:56:29 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: Howie66

Unfortunately, it's going to be the foreign media that will drive this story. It's hard to know what is more damaging: that they will report we did it or that we are saying that we are sorry.


180 posted on 06/03/2005 8:59:29 PM PDT by TFine80
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