Posted on 06/01/2005 9:24:53 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
Appreciate it.
Christians and Jews alike need to wake up to the none-to-subtle assault that has been going on for years, and is gaining new vigor and adherents. And I say this as a not particulary observant Episcopalian/Honorary Jew- whatever doubts I may harbor personally pale beside the organized attempt to silence, demean, marginalize, and segregate people of faith.
Everyone who believes in religious freedom, freedom of speech, and the right to live in peace as they see fit needs to wake up, and resist this nasty trend.
"The available historical citations of the era just don't back this assertion."
The 2nd President, of the United States of America, John Adams made the following statements:
"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people . It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Upon his Father's passing, President John Quincy Adams stated the following:
"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this, it connected in one indissoluble bond, principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."
President George Washington stated:
"You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ ."
"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible."
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars."
"Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education of minds, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle ."
I believe the Word of God is the only foundation our Nation should have. A sound democracy can not be built on a Nation with no morals or religious convictions.
I've read his profile. At least he understands biology.
Who was the real Dashwood?
bassmaner is correct. Jefferson was an old shcool "liberal". When it came to social issues he was a staunch conservitave. For example...
Nobody with a sane understanding of our constitution can seriously believe that homosexual marriage is a civil right; after all, sodomy was then illegal everywhere and remained so for the next 200 years. The Virginia statutes, drafted by Thomas Jefferson, went so far as to specify that male homosexuals should be castrated, and that holes should be drilled through the nose of female homosexuals.
Laws mean what their authors intend for them to mean, and the authors of the United States constitution uniformly regarded homosexuality as an unspeakable perversion; it was not their idea to protect it.
Jefferson drafted a bill concerning Virginia’s criminal law providing that the penalty for sodomy should be castration. See Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson’s “For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments.”
The bill read: “Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.” (Virginia Bill number 64; authored by Jefferson; 18 June 1779)
And it is in violation of their own sacred cow, Roe v. Wade...
'Padlock the doors and fumigate the building.'
The word education is not in the Constitution...
Neither is the word marriage...
Neither does any person have a "right" to them...
With the perversions and piercings today, that might encourage them!
He hasn't the slightest comprehension of biology.
As to the real Dashwood, do the google search yourself. THIS is the man the FR Dashboard wants to be associated with. He is playing you. And laughing at you, as I laugh at him. You're a means to his ends.
"The bill read: “Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.” (Virginia Bill number 64; authored by Jefferson; 18 June 1779)"
Another reason not to deify the founding fathers.
As to his understanding of biology, form designates function.
As to his namesake, pretty despicable. Doesn't nullify whatever truth in his arguments.
If he doesn't mean what he says, that's his loss.
What the 'historian' was saying was, that the words seperation of church and state, were never found in that order in the Dansbery letter from T Jefferson. They are found in the Communist Manifesto. I am not saying that is correct, but the T Jefferson letter did not have that phrase in it.
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