Posted on 05/29/2005 1:12:07 PM PDT by Betaille
French voters have rejected the proposed EU constitution in Sunday's referendum, according to an exit poll. The poll quoted by French TV gives the "No" side 55% - in line with surveys published in the run-up to the vote.
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It's like the Treaty of Nice.
You people in Ireland don't like it?
Well, let's just have another vote and see if we get different results.
In this case, I suppose they can punt it over to the French parliament, which is another potential avenue for approval.
In fact, if you compare the number of countries in the EU who approved this new Constitution by democratic plebiscite with those that did so by parliamentary procedure, you'd quickly realize that the actual people living in continental Europe aren't quite so keen on the foundational structure underpinning this pan-continental political scheme-which was set forth at Maastricht at the beginning of the 1990s-as their feckless, corrupt leaders seem to be.
-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)
WHAT defense?
I think a better metaphor would have been an upturned middle finger.
Wrong. Protectionism is conservatism. Free trade is liberalism, as in free-market liberalism (not socialism). In 19th century Britain, the liberals were for free trade, the conservatives were against. But this is just a question of semantics.
The fact is that free trade is a threat to national sovereignty. A country that relies on others for its commodities ties its own hands in foreign policy matters.
(This couldn't happen to a better bunch of communists.)
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French voters have rejected the proposed EU constitution in Sunday's referendum, according to an exit poll. The poll quoted by French TV gives the "No" side 55% - in line with surveys published in the run-up to the vote.
Then again, this is John Kerry we're talking about here.
I retract my earlier statement.
:7)
Well I'm a classical liberal. And as Reagan said, the heart and soul of American conservatism is libertarianism.
"For the socialists, the will of the people is valid only if it goes their way."
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That comment sounds hauntingly familiar these days . .
You heard it here first...
All this wonderful EU integration will end in WWIII.
The three dozen tribes of Europe have always hated each other for oh, now, about 4,000 years???
Throw in a Muslim fundamentalist majority in Nuclear, U.N. Security Council, France by 2050 (with or without a "EU Constitution")...
Earth-shattering Ka-Boom, anyone???
Reagan80
Well said.
The French rejected the EU Constitution. Citizens of the Netherlands are expected to follow. Italy is likely to be next. The vote in the UK -- never the strongest EU supporter in Europe -- isn't likely to go well for constitution supporters.
Since this is happening in Europe, I'd expect the next move will be to dump the entire draft, and try to get the whole thing passed piece by piece, via treaties -- with changes of course.
One of the primary reasons that the public-without exception-is disenchanted with them is that they want to strip ordinary citizens of their sovereignty and freedom, and force them to swear allegiance to unaccountable, elitist institutions, whether it be the judiciary-in places like North America and Israel-or the EU-Western Europe-or the UN-the overriding concern of the current Democratic Party.
The only place where the left is ascendant is in South America, where the left-irrespective of whether or not you happen to agree with their policies-uniformly identify themselves with populist causes.
The Democrats move farther away from the legacy of FDR and Truman-and correspondingly, embrace the legacy of Stevenson, McGovern and other out of touch politicians-and continue to lose election after election.
The same problems are inherent with the Franco-German axis, and their lame attempt at selling this pan-continental monstrosity.
When will they learn that people aren't buying what they're attempting to sell, and adjust course?
I've been hearing things recently saying that the French are more conservative than most people think of them. I guess really there is no legitimate political party there on the right (as I've heard LePen carries some anti-Semetic thoughts), so they come across as very liberal and arrogant. Hopefully the 20% or so that vote for the FN can change the direction of their party after LePen steps down.
Mea Culpa!
For the record, I've been saying for months that the French were too corrupt to actually allow their voters to say "Non."
I was wrong. I'm actually glad about that fact, though (at least in this instance).
Perhaps he is after the writeoff.
actually I am inclined to believe the french politicians thought the vote would be close so they "adjusted" to overcome a close vote. A outright stuffing over the 10% would have been too easily exposed.
The main purpose of EU is to challenge our supremacy us on all economic, military, cultural, and technological levels. When EU collapses, and it will in the next 10 years, the challenge will fail with it.
Ah, sweet defeat, eh? Indeed, sometimes it is good to be wrong.
re: France, this from an earlier post, once more, with feeling:
"There are many GOOD people in France, the EU-friendly MSM stifles Conservative voices there too.
I suggest that the French again 'storm the Bastille' and throw the Derriere out on his Chirac, or vice versa. Let him eat votes."
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