LIVE Thread: France votes on EU Constitution [Schadenfreude Alert]

Various ^ | May 29, 2005 | nwrep

[nwrep]

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Initial reports show a turnout of 25%. Last polls before voting began show the No vote leading by 56% to 44%.

[apackof2]

Bump

[SIDENET]

BUWAHAHA!!!

[nwrep]

PING

[Neville72]

Non! Non! Non!

[MikeJ]

I've been reading a lot of different opinions about what follows a 'no' vote. Would the proposed constitution simply be modified a bit and resubmitted, over and over, until it eventually passes? Is the Euro dependent on the eventual passage? Does a French 'no' necessarily even stop the current constitution from being ratified by the other nations?

Also, any idea when the results will be known?

[JLS]

But with 20% undecided. I suspect a large share of the undecided is really NON but did not want to admit that to the EU supporting pollsters.

[MrsEmmaPeel]

What time do the polls close over there?

France is GMT +2, right? (DLS is observed, yes?)

[nwrep]

A French NO effectively forces them to go back to the drawing board, although what they will do after that is unclear. No one really has thought this through.

The first results will become available at noon Pacific Time.

[nwrep]

A French NO effectively forces them to go back to the drawing board, although what they will do after that is unclear. No one really has thought this through.

The first results will become available at noon Pacific Time.

[gas_dr]

Does a French 'no' necessarily even stop the current constitution from being ratified by the other nations?

All EU countries must ratify for the constitution to go into effect. Clearly between France and Holland, the EU is on hold for a while, I suspect.

[CasearianDaoist]

That does not mean that the next one will not be just as bad.

Let us hope that the Dutch and the Brits further trounce the beast.

[Stellar Dendrite]

I thought chirac said they'd go ahead and pass it anyway, even without a yes vote? or, they "wouldnt let france get in the way of the EU".....something like that, at least

[beckaz]

I suspect that some OUIs in the polling are also NON's (those cowed by political correctness). Here's to NON winning big time.

[JLS]

You are right, while it might be close, I would not be surprised with a blow out loss due to:

1. Some oui in polls realling being nons as you suggest
2. Many undecideds being unadmitted nons
3. The rest of the undecideds just not bothering to vote as they are really undecided

We shall see.

[Steely Tom]

It'll be easy to tell if non is winning.

Just listen for this phrase: voting results have been delayed due to technical difficulties.

(steely)

[Betaille]

Such low turnout, I bet they're going to disregard the vote on the grounds that turnout was too low.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Thanks for the thread. I was wondering what was going on.

[MadIvan]

I remember how Chirac tripped up the US and UK in the UN Security Council, and our efforts elsewhere.

I say this with joy in my heart, the Day of Vengeance may have arrived.

Regards, Ivan

[Right_in_Virginia]

I bet they're going to disregard the vote on the grounds that turnout was too low.

Chirac has already said if the vote is "no"....France would hold another one.

I guess in France democracy means: "Citizens shall vote until the desired outcome"