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Today: Katie's Krokodile Tears [More Concern for Baby Alligator than Human Life]
The Today Show | governsleast governsbest

Posted on 05/26/2005 4:24:33 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: poobear
So blow.

This erases any positives that you have attempted to present.

n00bs acting like b00bs.

101 posted on 05/26/2005 6:32:15 AM PDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
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To: squeekyclean

They won't be kicked off, they will leave on their own.

The n00bs that have thin skins and are too lazy to to any research but continue to shoot off their mouths soon tire of FR because people rightfully treat them like trolls.


102 posted on 05/26/2005 6:34:45 AM PDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
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To: squeekyclean
Thank you and that's why I decided to just walk away from this argument.

When a 'newbie' disagrees with a 'regular', he get's called a troll, then come the troll pictures and next thing you know that person has been 'removed'.  Disagreeing with someone is 'baiting' that person.

I saw it several times during the 'Schiavo' debate and that is why I waited so long to join.  My viewpoints contrasted with several people here and I saw no reason to join in that mess.

Somehow, a story about a baby aliigator and Katie Couric is just not worth it to me.  There are more interesting articles to discuss.

104 posted on 05/26/2005 6:40:27 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yep. :)

OTOH, there's a not very funny side to this. This state is infested with gators - the damned things are everywhere. One of the other engineers at my office did a field visit at a nearby lake to look at some stuff. He spotted 80 alligators after walking less than a mile along the shore (this is a big lake, 5,000 acres or so).

With all the gators and all the people coming in, showdowns are inevitable, especially when people start feeding the gators. That's illegal, but they do it anyway.

Once they get fed, they lose their fear of humans and see them as a food source, and then they become a serious menace and usually end up being destroyed, hopefully before they've killed someone. You can't tame these things like you do dogs and cats.

105 posted on 05/26/2005 6:44:39 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: squeekyclean
squeekyclean, I left mom's home some 30 years. My skin is very thick and I can take any nit picky criticism from a housewife, daytime computer 'dude', or perhaps a real scholar can dish.

Can we back to the subject now that the name calling is over?
106 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:08 AM PDT by poobear (Yes, I have a life other than FR)
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To: softwarecreator; governsleastgovernsbest
She IS entitled to her personal views.

Yes, she is entitled to her personal views.
She is not, however, to pass off her personal views as objective truth or even "news". This, IMHO, is where the MSM goes off the tracks. Finally, the Today Show is paying the price for that behavior with "plunging" ratings. (remember, governs - SOP now is to say that the Today show's ratings are "plunging"?! LOL)

107 posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:14 AM PDT by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: WKB

Ugh! Probably.


108 posted on 05/26/2005 6:56:25 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: softwarecreator

Clearly, you are a newbie. Governs has been keeping an eye on the Today Show so the rest of us don't have to suffer through it. He's been making these posts for a long time. He lets us know what the MSM vis a vis the Today Show is up to.

Know your enemy!


109 posted on 05/26/2005 6:58:28 AM PDT by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Has Katie ever come out on the show and paraded her pro-choice views?"


110 posted on 05/26/2005 6:59:27 AM PDT by Artist
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To: softwarecreator

Please explain why, after questioning the existence of evidence that Couric is pro-choice, you declined to view rather clear-cut evidence of just that?


111 posted on 05/26/2005 7:01:43 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Artist

Thanks, Artist. I think you've made a prima facie case for Couric's pro-choice views. Oddly, after demanding proof thereof, softwarecreator has so far refused to review it!


112 posted on 05/26/2005 7:03:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: softwarecreator
"I just wonder how her viewpoints are affecting her coverage of the story."

If this is something you *wonder* about, I'm not sure that anyone can help you see.

113 posted on 05/26/2005 7:03:59 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Here is a link to Katie's exchange with Whoopi Goldberg about "choice." Whoopi's at every major pro-abortion event it seems (and in her biography says that she can't even remember how many abortions she's had).---Link
114 posted on 05/26/2005 7:10:11 AM PDT by Artist
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
after questioning the existence of evidence that Couric is pro-choice, you declined to view rather clear-cut evidence of just that

Everyone keeps showing 'proof' of her bias when she is OFF the air.  no one has shown proof of this DURING a show.

You mentioned she had more concern for this than Terri Schiavo ... what did she do for you to say this.  You offered NO proof ... show me direct quotes or actions and I could agree with you.

My point is this:

It was a story about a baby alligator being taken from a pond and she showed concern for it.  What should she have said "look at that lil' gator, I hope they chop it up into little pieces and sprinkle in the 'glades'"?  Or should she have said ... "They killed Terri, so let's waste the ugly varmint".  Maybe something like ... "Sure they kill unborn babies, yet they let this ugly thing live" would have been more appropriate?

That is what my response was about ... not what you did yesterday or whether you are a 'watchdog' for the media.  That stuff is all great and I will probably look into your past threads to see what else you've done ... most of which is probably very informative.   But what should she have done differently in this story to show her concern for Terri and abortion?

115 posted on 05/26/2005 7:14:37 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Miss Behave
It was a story about an ALLIGATOR, not al-qaeda, abortion, terrorists, Terri Schiavo or anything else.

I am asking about a particular story, nothing more.

What else should she have said during this ONE story to show affection for unborn fetuses?

What am I not seeing?

116 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:57 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: softwarecreator; squeekyclean
When a 'newbie' disagrees with a 'regular', he get's called a troll, then come the troll pictures and next thing you know that person has been 'removed'. Disagreeing with someone is 'baiting' that person.

Oh, puh-leeze! It happens from time to time, but not with the regularity that you both imply.

I've been here since just after the inception of FR, and the very difficult job that the moderators do is handled exceptionally well.

Pre-moderator, it was pretty wild and woolly around here, I'll tell you that much. There is a very real threat of "trolls" and "disruptors" ruining a board and so fogging the facts in various threads that the board becomes worthless. It has been tried here numerous times.

I've seen your posts before, softwarecreator, so I didn't come down on you as a troll. I did feel that you needed to be educated on glgb's Couric expertise, though. The $15 Million Dollar Woman still influences millions of Americans daily (though her ratings are declining precipitously - LOL!) and she needs to be watched and cross-checked into the boards for the smallest reason.

117 posted on 05/26/2005 7:19:17 AM PDT by an amused spectator (If Social Security isn't broken, then cut me a check for the cash I have into it.)
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To: softwarecreator

I feel that you are moving the goal posts. When I wrote that I felt I had made the case that Couric is pro-choice, you asked "how?"

When a number of fellow FReepers went to the time and trouble of providing links to material demonstrating Couric's pro-choice position, you chose to ignore it.

Are you now willing to concede that there is strong evidence that Couric is pro-choice?

If so, do you not see the moral inconsistency in lamenting the possible mistreatment of an alligator while "celebrating" a woman's right to end the life of an unborn baby?


118 posted on 05/26/2005 7:22:27 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Miss Behave
BTW: I am not defending Katie Curic OR the MSM OR leftists OR democrats.

I can NOT stand the MSM and that is why I no longer watch them.  It's ALL left wing propoganda and lies, we all know this.

But why does EVERY single freakin' story have to involve Terri Schiavo???

Can't there even be a story about a baby alligator without invoking the sacred name of TS???

119 posted on 05/26/2005 7:23:06 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: softwarecreator
What else should she have said during this ONE story to show affection for unborn fetuses?

What you're not seeing is this: How many of the other morning shows covered this, let alone with a tear in their eye about it?

I'm sure La Couric and Mattie exert some sort of editorial control over their newsreading - and determining what gets commented on or what gets passed over in silence is a great deal of what passes for "news" in this country.

glgb was right to call her on her Greenie BS.

120 posted on 05/26/2005 7:24:08 AM PDT by an amused spectator (If Social Security isn't broken, then cut me a check for the cash I have into it.)
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