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Live Filibuster Thread Tuesday
CSPAN ^ | May 24, 2005 | AliVeritas

Posted on 05/24/2005 6:55:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas

FReepers be prepared for surprises today.

(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; ussenate
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To: onyx

Yep, that's my take.

Graham holds the trump card.


1,381 posted on 05/24/2005 11:00:08 AM PDT by maggief
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To: MamaLucci
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

Speaking of lack of trust, do you get OpinionJournal's Political Diary? Holman W. Jenkins Jr. really ripped the deal and Bill Frist.

1,382 posted on 05/24/2005 11:00:53 AM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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To: onyx

Can anyone truly imagine the Democrats controlling the Senate and the White House and offering to power share with us? Or signing onto the deal that the Democrat president would have to confer with the minority Republicans in the Senate?

It's unimaginable. And the people putting a good spin on this are really surprising me.


1,383 posted on 05/24/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by Peach
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To: maggiefluffs

We've been told through "sources" here in South Carolina that Graham is the lynchpin to the whole thing and to target him.


1,384 posted on 05/24/2005 11:01:44 AM PDT by Peach
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To: OXENinFLA

GOOD FIND!!!


1,385 posted on 05/24/2005 11:02:15 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: maggiefluffs


Bookmarked, thanks again, Maggie.


1,386 posted on 05/24/2005 11:02:33 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: MamaLucci
BTW, Specter sure does not look OR sound too good........

I don't think he has much time left

He looks and sounds really bad

1,387 posted on 05/24/2005 11:02:37 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: MamaLucci
Lindsey Graham said on the senate floor this am that he WILL vote for the nuke option if push comes to shove.

I think that he would. What needs to happen is Frist needs to keep Judicial nominees the top priority on the executive calander; he could also bring to the floor nominees that are not on the "deal list" for a vote and force the RINOs hand. After all, kyl, burr, allen, cornyn and the rest of the repubs did not agree to the deal. What is pretty certain is that McCain did not read the mood of the base; nor does he understand the power of the internet. He is pretty much finished in the republican party. Look for him to bolt in '07. He will never be reelected in Arizona. RINOS would do well to read the pulse of the nation by looking at the blogs and not the WAPO or NYtimes.

1,388 posted on 05/24/2005 11:02:38 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: piperpilot
I like Senator Allen more every day. This thread is moving so fast, I'm not sure this has been posted or not, but here is his statement on this filibuster mess:

WASHINGTON, DC - U.S. Senator George Allen (R-VA), today issued the following statement on the deal that was struck last night to avoid an immediate showdown over the outrageous and unprecedented Democrat filibusters of President Bush's judicial nominees:

"Overall this is a major disappointment on principle. It's a good victory for 3 of the President's nominees, who the Democrats have vilified. They will get the vote they deserve. But this is not a great deal for 2 nominees who have been accorded a nice wake having been thrown overboard at sea. Thus, this so-called deal is disappointing for all of us who believe in the principle that persons should be accorded the fairness and due process of an up or down vote. Everyone should also clearly see that ultimately, nothing has been settled when a vacancy arises on the U.S. Supreme Court."

1,389 posted on 05/24/2005 11:02:49 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: MamaLucci

Yeah, I agree. Chemotherapy?


1,390 posted on 05/24/2005 11:03:04 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Yep.


1,391 posted on 05/24/2005 11:03:34 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: MamaLucci
BTW, Specter sure does not look OR sound too good........

Do you think he might die??? :) (uttered in best MSM interviewer voice)

1,392 posted on 05/24/2005 11:04:10 AM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: YaYa123
LOL at how my mind isn't working today

YOUR MIND IS ALWAYS PRESENT. With so much BS being flung today, it's almost impossible to compartmentalize it.

1,393 posted on 05/24/2005 11:04:18 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: onyx

Here they are the members of the Judiciary Committee! Hatch, Leahy, Grassley, Kennedy, Kyl, Kohl, Sessions, Feinstein, Graham, Feingold,Cornayn, Schumer, Brownback, Coburn and Durbin!

So yes!


1,394 posted on 05/24/2005 11:04:23 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Peach

Interesting ... makes sense to me.



1,395 posted on 05/24/2005 11:04:39 AM PDT by maggief
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To: steveegg
While Frist can call in a nuke strike, those 7 RINOs are now obligated ...

Ahhh, but which obligation will they break? We won't know until they are put to the test, and it sounds as though Frist is willing to put them to the test, if they ask for it.

Tough to tell which way the test would break. Maybe 49 Senators would agree to take the vote on nominees as a matter of routine - the nuclear option would fail. But then their votes are on the record. And that is a good thing too. At least it is no worse than what we had last Congress, where the DEMs were stifling nominees with less than a simple majority.

1,396 posted on 05/24/2005 11:04:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Peach


Prescisley. They ran over us for over 40 years. Too many people have forgotten that.

I'm with you --- the spin is no different from putting lipstick on a pig.


1,397 posted on 05/24/2005 11:05:02 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: MamaLucci
BTW, Specter sure does not look OR sound too good........

That's because he's fighting cancer. Hair fell out from chemotherapy. Decent chance he'll beat it, but yes, it's taking it's toll on him. As much as I don't care for his positions most of the time I do wish him well with his health problems.

1,398 posted on 05/24/2005 11:05:03 AM PDT by jdsteel (We need 2 new refineries, 20 new nuclear power plants and ANWAR ASAP)
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To: piperpilot
your sell-out of conservative ideals

Why is the consitutional option a conservative ideal? If the tables were reversed, the Dems would being doing the same thing (except they would have forced the vote and changed the rules).

The real issue is that McCain and the 6 others wimped-out when it came to playing hardball party politics. Wonder what Bush has in store for him? He can't really punish the residents of AZ, so it makes for an interesting quandry.

1,399 posted on 05/24/2005 11:05:12 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Peach

Makes sense that Graham is the lynchpin. DeWine is too vulnerable to pressure from Frist and the White House -- he's up in '06 and I for one would love to see Ken Blackwell run against him in the primary. If Graham returns from the Dark Side than DeWine will tag along.


1,400 posted on 05/24/2005 11:05:20 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
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