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Live Filibuster Thread Tuesday
CSPAN ^ | May 24, 2005 | AliVeritas

Posted on 05/24/2005 6:55:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas

FReepers be prepared for surprises today.

(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; ussenate
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To: Gumption
What in the world makes you think the Dems fear looking hypocritical?

None, but they didn't need to have this go with 81%. This means the rats support for filibustering is a lot softer than we have been led to believe.

1,081 posted on 05/24/2005 9:42:05 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Mo1


Listen to C-SPAN "yesterdsy our form of government died -- minority rules -- Communism."


1,082 posted on 05/24/2005 9:42:08 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: smokeman

McCullough just called them the satanic seven. LOL
He said the agreement is vague and not really defined.


1,083 posted on 05/24/2005 9:42:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Raycpa

Because the dems took a few polls and found out they're acting like a bunch of as***** and Roe vs Wade is not the only issue in the country.


1,084 posted on 05/24/2005 9:43:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Mo1

Buchanan this morning on Imus gave the same advice to Frist that Rush is giving. He said Frist should immediately put up the names of the rest of the nominees for votes.


1,085 posted on 05/24/2005 9:43:06 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Yuck.com)
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To: Soul Seeker
The pact dealt the loss of 2-4 if not more. The pact stated this rules change would not happen this session even if Dems act in bad faith. No, I know what will happen and it isn't confirmation of All these Judges.

The back room deal trading nominees for consent to vote is something that could happen, no matter what. There is no way to prevent it.

Despite the MOU, the nuclear option is alive. Graham said he would STILL vote for it, if the DEMs filibustered. Therefore, he must think that the nuclear option is not a rules change, as described in the MOU. Who knows. But talk is cheap, and when put to the vote, Senators act differently from their talk. See 81-18 cloture vote.

What Frist has set forth, and is adhering to, is that all nominees are to get an up or down vote.

1,086 posted on 05/24/2005 9:43:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: LisaFab
True, but the "extraordinary circumstances" bar has been raised almost impossibly high by the fact that the three most 'extreme' candidates will have been given cloture.

Since when has that stopped DemonRATs and their sycophants in the Left Stream Media? Besides, if one (or more) loses on the floor, that moves the bar right back with the force of a freight train.

1,087 posted on 05/24/2005 9:43:24 AM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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To: smokeman

Thanks, I didn't get to check my favorite place this morning.


1,088 posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:04 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: RoseofTexas

I'll send $$$ over to AZ - I don't care if it's the local dogcatcher running against him in the primaries. Look what we did to little Tommy last year and got a dang good guy in Thune.


1,089 posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:09 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (RINOs forget who brought them to this dance)
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To: YaYa123


That sounds like good stratergy to me.


1,090 posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:19 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Mo1

So how do the 7 dwarfs block a judge? Would that require them to go on the record with a vote?


1,091 posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:22 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: AliVeritas
But Sarbanes was a no, I didn't write it down because I couldn't hear the name for sure.

I really hate the changable vote.

1,092 posted on 05/24/2005 9:44:54 AM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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To: Mo1

I thought Pickering didn't want to be reappointed after his recess appointment expired. He's not a young man.


1,093 posted on 05/24/2005 9:45:34 AM PDT by GB
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To: smokeman

That's what Graham let out of the bag, that he told them he would be voting yes on Owens...so if they were discussing votes in the inner sanctum, he probably said who would be voted against. Stands to reason.


1,094 posted on 05/24/2005 9:45:35 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: SueAngel

My wife just sends me to the basement to reload some.

She gets tired of me going to bed mad as heck otherwise.


1,095 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:07 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: pbrown
My observation is this is all strategery in slow motion.

The Senate is a unique institution...looks calm and collected on the surface but a ton of behind the scenes activity.

Ther is a theorem in cybernetics that the control system of a system must be at least as complex as the system controlled.

The dims just don't have the bandwidth

Coupled with their extreme rantings and clebral meltdowns and inconsistenciesof the dims like Shrillary, Kerry, Byrd-brain, Dingy-searchlight et al

1,096 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:08 AM PDT by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: AliVeritas

I prefer Pussilanimous Seven.


1,097 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:24 AM PDT by HRoarke ("There cannot be an absence of moral content in American foreign policy,..We are not Europe")
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To: Cboldt
Sheesh! Are we the only ones on this thread that see it this way?

IMHO, Rush is over-reacting. He wanted the nuclear option invoked. But if we can get the up-or-down votes without it, we still win!

It's too bad that Estrada, et al, pulled out, but this is the U.S. Senate we're dealing with. They don't like change. You've got to give Frist some credit for this, no matter how long it took.

1,098 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:45 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: defconw
Oh I love Rick a lot - I wanted him for Majority Leader. And with all the criticism (including my own) of McSpector, at least he didn't backstab Frist now, when it counts. That's what infuriates me most about the whole deal, that Senators purporting to be Republicans are stabbing their own Majority Leader in the back. I consider it a no-confidence vote for Frist, and if I were him, I'd probably resign in protest (from the Leadership, not the Senate).
1,099 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:48 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Raycpa
After all this 81% voted for cloture? The rats are going to have a very difficult time invoking another judge filibuster. They had less than half of what they needed.

Buy a clue ...

1,100 posted on 05/24/2005 9:46:48 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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