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Filibuster deal: Freepers, please "hold your powder"
n/a | 05/24/05 | jdsteel

Posted on 05/24/2005 5:44:11 AM PDT by jdsteel

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To: jdsteel
we can still "pull the trigger" on the constitutional option...this time with "betrayed and outraged moderates" leading the way

Ain't gonna happen. They would have to admit they were fools to agree to the deal in the first place.

61 posted on 05/24/2005 6:03:14 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, you're simply wrong on this one. I understand your emotions. I feel them too, but we'll actually get ALL our judges, with the possible exception of Saad. I happen to think that Saad will also get his vote, but won't be confirmed by the full Senate.


62 posted on 05/24/2005 6:03:28 AM PDT by John Valentine (Whoop dee doo)
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To: mathluv
That said, the RNC may get $$$$ from me, but not for the Senate.

I'm was so disgusted over this when I heard about it I actually went out and took the Bush sticker off my car. I was pretty disgusted over the border issue but this one takes the cake. I'm not contrbuting this year, not my money or my time.

63 posted on 05/24/2005 6:03:40 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Condor51

My sentiments exactly for McVain


64 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:02 AM PDT by el_texicano
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To: balch3
So what happens to the two judges that they will not vote on.

Seems to me there ought to be a discrimination lawsuit.

65 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:36 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: jdsteel

It's too early to throw in the towel, but many already have.


66 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:53 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: jocon307
The only this makes sense is if the pubbies want to preserve the fillibuster for their own use at some future time when they are in the minority.

Are you delusional? In the future the 'Rats would not hesitate one milisecond to drop the nuclear option, the neutron option, the star wars option and every other dirty trick let's-change-the-rules again option they can manufacture!

67 posted on 05/24/2005 6:05:38 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: John Valentine
Laz, you're simply wrong on this one. I understand your emotions. I feel them too, but we'll actually get ALL our judges

If this is true, there is a small chance of getting back a few of us who have bolted the party.

However, be aware: There are many Republicans who don't follow it as closely as us. They will have seen this travesty last night, and decided to drop out and tune out of the party.

They won't be coming back.

This is a true turning point. Expect Democrat wins in 2006 and 2008, and probably for a long time after that.

68 posted on 05/24/2005 6:05:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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To: jdsteel

Altho I am dissapointed I am hoping that when the SCOTUS position opens up GW nominates Owens,Brown, or Pryor. Which the Senate now deems acceptable.Let them try to fillibuster now that they have been cleared for lower court appointments.


69 posted on 05/24/2005 6:05:55 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: knuthom
Ain't gonna happen. They would have to admit they were fools to agree to the deal in the first place.

WOW! I'm not taking YOU on as a political consultant. This is the most topsy-turvy, ssa-sdrawkcab, analysis I have ever seen.

70 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:08 AM PDT by John Valentine (Whoop dee doo)
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To: jdsteel; All
Dear Freepers,

I must say it did me a world of good to vent my anger last night! [smile]. Boy I was mad... and I'm STILL mad but at least my brain functions again.

I do agree, that a war has many battles, and this was just one of them. The important thing is to settle down and get organized, and direct the anger to the right place. But just for fun, what are we going to call these 7?

The 7 TRAITORS,
The 7 FROM HELL?,
The 7 SATANS? - LOL.

71 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:11 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: jdsteel

I have a feeling McCain is going to torpedo us in '08 too. He's not going to get the nomination of the party, so he'll run like Perot did, suck away votes, and the dem will win. Just a feeling.....


72 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:22 AM PDT by b4its2late (It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.)
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To: jdsteel

"Getting the up or down vote is the target in this issue. We get that, and still have the constitutional option in our holster, I'm satisfied."

But will we have the votes? Right now the holster has a gun in it, will it be there in the future?


73 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:27 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: gridlock

"Unless the President puts up some squishy moderate, it will be the "Extraordinary Circumstance" that will trigger the next Filibuster.

And the Republican Moderates will cave again. Once on kisses the boot once, it is easier to do it again. And again."

I absolutely agree. We suddenly have rule by the Moderates (those without conviction). Therefore, there is no political motivation to keep these losers from caving over and over as they feel "emboldened". I have given my last dollar to the RNC. One penny of it just might go to one of these seven SOB's.

What we need is a true conservative nominee for the Supreme Court. It is apparent that Rehnquist is the next to go. We must replace him with a Scalia or Thomas type justice. But, with these seven Judases giving up all the political power that we supporters of the GOP, the conservatives in Congress ,and the Bush Administration have worked so hard to accumulate, we are losing the clout necessary to get the justices we need.


74 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:59 AM PDT by lnbchip
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To: Lazamataz

The senate screwed us then, too.


75 posted on 05/24/2005 6:07:07 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (BTDT got the T shirt, shot glass, shoulder patch, challenge coin, coffee mug....)
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To: Obadiah
Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and national TV to argue against Pricella Owens? Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and vote against Janice Brown? Of course they didn't. They were scared to death that they might have had to do that, but thanks to the gang of 7, the Republicans saved the Democrats from their self-destruction.

You're right on target with this. The squishiness of republicans is astounding. I think it's funny how you've got so many people trying to spin this into a win for the pubbies. I intend to remind everyone over and over again as the next general election comes up exactly how useless they are when it comes to actually standing up for a constitutional issue.

76 posted on 05/24/2005 6:07:47 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: jdsteel
What sticks in my craw the most is that if the situation were reversed and it were a democratic President's nominees up for vote, the pubs would trip over their own shoelaces to confirm them. The pubs apparently have no clue on how to act as a majority party.

Screw 'em. They won't get one damn more dime from me until they start acting like the majority they are.
77 posted on 05/24/2005 6:07:58 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: jdsteel
I agree with all except holding fire on the RINO's.
It's great that they came out in the open.

Arrogant and selfish move, it is. They think the Senate is more important than the Constitution, and that the Senate revolves around them.

78 posted on 05/24/2005 6:08:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Always Right

The most sickening part of this whole thing was watching them up there at the podium slobbering over each other for this "crisis breaker". BYRD?????? gag me!!!

I don't know what's worse. A flat out liberal or these compromising weenie republicans!!


79 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:08 AM PDT by jackv
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To: Eagle Eye

Yeah, well, they can't screw me any more. I ain't playing.


80 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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