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Fox: 730pm Press Conference to Announce Filibuster Compromise

Posted on 05/23/2005 4:18:39 PM PDT by jern

Announce Filibuster Compromise


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To: nopardons
He not only didn't, he has no bloody idea how to.

But you do, apparantly, since you are so much smarter than everybody else. Why don't you explain exactly what Frist is supposed to do, since you have all the answers, wiseguy.

1,921 posted on 05/23/2005 8:43:41 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
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To: ken5050

LOL! She was more disgusted than mad and she's awfully tired... hosting a whole lot of company. I hope to see her here in a little while, but here tomorry for sure I think.


1,922 posted on 05/23/2005 8:43:52 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: AndrewC

On a slightly different note, isn't it wonderful how the Darinists on the "list", so concerned with conservatism, have appeared in droves to voice their opinions on this issue so near and dear to a conservatives heart?


1,923 posted on 05/23/2005 8:43:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Jmouse007
"He also said that all of the president's nominees should receive an up or down vote! With this "deal" that is NOT going to happen."

You may be surprised when the voting starts. Stay tuned.

1,924 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:09 PM PDT by maxter
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To: Kenny Bunkport

No, we don't know "who they are." If one of these dropped out, there are at least 3 more who would take the place of that one. These are the 7 RINOS who think they have the least to lose by going out in front. Specter, Hagel, Lugar, etc., the list is endless.


1,925 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:24 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Cautor

After the honeymoon

The national media have given John McCain their unconditional love. As he tests the presidential waters, that's about to change.

Don't Quote Me by Dan Kennedy

John McCain In the summer of 1994, Senator John McCain found himself in a familiar place: deep trouble. The Arizona Republican's wife, Cindy, had been caught stealing from the international children's relief agency she ran in order to feed her addiction to painkillers. Already humiliated, she faced prosecution, maybe even prison. And John McCain -- who had nearly been driven from office several years earlier over his involvement in the Keating Five savings-and-loan scandal -- again faced the prospect of his political career's coming to an unwanted end.

What happened next may surprise anyone whose knowledge of McCain is based solely on his most recent incarnation as the media's favorite campaign-finance-reformin', tobacco-fightin' war hero.

He stopped talking to the Arizona Republic. And he kept his mouth shut for many months.

McCain's vow of silence was prompted by an editorial cartoon by the Republic's newly minted Pulitzer Prize winner, Steve Benson. A spaced-out Cindy McCain was standing in the midst of a group of what appeared to be starving African children. Holding one up by the ankle, she was depicted as saying, "Quit your crying and give me the drugs." In the background was a van labeled CINDY McCAIN'S VOLUNTARY MEDICAL TEAM.

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Cindy McCain reached an agreement with prosecutors that allowed her to avoid prison. And by 1996, John McCain was once again talking to his adopted home state's newspaper of record; the cartoon, he admitted, was "incredibly painful" for him.

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Keating Five scandal, his messy divorce from his first wife, and his current wife's misuse of charitable funds. "He's got a great media gift, but I think he's also incredibly thin-skinned when he's challenged," says Slate's David Plotz, who wrote a piece last year arguing that McCain is better suited to Senate bomb-throwing than he is to presidential leadership. Adds Harry Jaffe, a national editor for Washingtonian magazine: "He's a pugnacious guy. He's easily pissed off. And he doesn't suffer assholes, or reporters who he thinks are assholes."

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In his first Senate campaign, he referred to a retirement community called Leisure World as "Seizure World." Last year he got caught joking (if such a vile outburst can be categorized as humor), "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father and Hillary Clinton is her mother." In both instances he issued public apologies.

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Yet the liberal media slobber all over McCain. The notably cynical Michael Lewis melted in his 1996 presidential-campaign coverage for the New Republic and in a 1997 profile for the New York Times Magazine. The Wall Street Journal's Al Hunt has fallen at McCain's feet. CBS legend Mike Wallace has even said he'd quit 60 Minutes to take a job as McCain's press secretary.

James Carroll, in a 1996 New Yorker piece on McCain's and Senator John Kerry's efforts to investigate -- and then debunk -- the myth that American POWs were still being kept in Vietnam, swooned over being flattered by McCain (like McCain, Carroll is the son of a prominent military officer), even as he acknowledged the possibility that such flattery was more calculated than sincere. ("The bald statement cried out to be taken as a savvy politician's shameless appeal to a writer's narcissism, but my every instinct told me something else.")

Esquire actually titled a 1998 cover piece "John McCain Walks on Water." (The article, by Phoenix alumnus Charles Pierce, was somewhat more nuanced than that.)

Locally, Boston Globe editor Matt Storin was expressing his admiration for McCain as far back as the 1996 Republican National Convention in San Diego. Globe political columnist David Nyhan, an inveterate liberal, is smitten with McCain the way he was with Lamar Alexander four years ago, calling McCain "the brightest light in the shadowy Senate cave."

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. Both Timberg and Lewis, for example, give McCain a virtual pass on the Keating Five scandal, arguing that McCain refused Keating's demand that he intervene with regulators. That may be true. But it's also true that Keating, whose sleazy operations cost taxpayers some $2.6 billion, had a hand in $112,000 worth of contributions to McCain's House and Senate campaigns. And of the five senators Keating corruptly tried to influence, McCain was the only one who ever went on vacation with him.

Actually, make that three vacations.

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Boston Globe Washington-bureau chief David Shribman puts it this way: "McCain has one attribute that reporters not only like but worship: he calls them back at the speed of sound. That's not necessarily an attribute of presidential leadership, but it's invaluable to a desperate, ink-stained wretch on deadline. But I've never known anyone to vote with their Rolodex, so the value of that may be overestimated."

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Amy Silverman is a reporter for the Phoenix New Times -- an alternative weekly in Arizona that has been unsparing in its criticism of McCain. (Silverman once wrote that McCain -- who, she says, hasn't returned her calls for years -- "is a mean-spirited, hot-tempered, opportunistic, philandering, hypocritical political climber who married a comely beer heiress and used her daddy's money to get elected to Congress in a state he can hardly call home.") She wonders whether McCain's 15 minutes in the national media came too early to do him any good. The puff pieces of 1996, '97, and '98, in other words, are likely to give way to more-probing pieces in 1999 and 2000.

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"I think he's a very complicated guy," says Jeff Barker, the Arizona Republic's Washington reporter and a prime victim of McCain's cartoon-inspired freeze-out. "He's willing to take principled stands that are above politics, but he's also very political. I'm not sure that either the Arizona press or the national press really has a handle on him."

http://tinyurl.com/76oyz


1,926 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Alberta's Child
but I'd be curious to see how it plays out when a judicial nomination is deemed "extraordinary" by a Democrat on that committee.

The'll filibuster under extraordinary circumstances. See, the agreement is that each Rat holds the discretion to decide when it's time to do so, and the Republicans have agreed not to change the rules. I mean, it's the same thing all over again.

1,927 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:38 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: rcocean
It means the power to stop a filibuster and approve a nominee is in the hands of the McCain and his gang of 6.

If so, it always was so.

1,928 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: onyx

and there was a tidal wave also....seems she toosed her laptop into the Atlantic..I was disgusted...I had a sirloin of the BBQ..whent he news flash broke..I couldn't eat it..


1,929 posted on 05/23/2005 8:45:23 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Soul Seeker

Recess appointments for Federal Judges are worthless. Any appointments made now expire in 2007. Also, the Senate isn't even in recess at the moment.


1,930 posted on 05/23/2005 8:45:30 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
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To: JulieRNR21
Is developer Charles Keating related to OK Gov. Keating ?

I don't think so.

1,931 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jern

Here's To You McCain and the Rest of the RINO's And your presidential hopes

1,932 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:08 PM PDT by Rise of South Park Republicans (The Founding Fathers wanted disagreements as long as we all agree America kicks as* - Eric Cartman)
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To: beyond the sea
McCain .................... cannot ever be trusted on anything.

You would think that the president and Frist would have realized this after all these years, but no. They will be inviting McCain over for movies and cookies and photo opportunities in the near future.

1,933 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:40 PM PDT by Jmouse007 ("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
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To: All

This can still be won. If Frist holds the vote for all three tomorrow, and then brings up the 4th Wednesday, the Dems either fold or filibuster. If they filibuster, the RINOs can claim they were betrayed and have cover to vote with the party. They are RINOs by virtue of two things, remember that always, two things. 1) inclination and 2) what state they are from. If they were not RINOs they might not win.

Lets see what Frist does.


1,934 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:40 PM PDT by Owen
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To: onyx

Why do Republicans in any state put up candidates for office, Senator or House, who are not ideologically conservative? What use is it to have RINOs in Congress. We are just fooling ourselves. We don't have and NEVER have had real control of the Senate, because at least seven of those Senators who call themselves Republicans have no ideological conviction behind their thinking or voting. Their only aim is to get re-elected and to "get along" with their fellow Demorats.

The ONLY solution is to only have candidates who are real Republicans, not imitation Demorats.What happened tonight was not a compromise, it was a sellout. Plain and simple.
And the Demorats are walking around like the cat who ate the canary.


1,935 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:46 PM PDT by Zivasmate
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To: Wolverine


And here we thought dark politics under the cloak of night belonged to the Clinton WH.


1,936 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:52 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: nopardons

I am anxious to see how this will play out with the dynamics of the GOP leadership.


1,937 posted on 05/23/2005 8:47:08 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: beyond the sea
How many times most McCain stab us in the Back before we accept that he can't be trusted.

I stopped paying attention to him after his 500th appearance on the Chris Matthews show and his hesitation in accepting Kerry offer of a VP.

If the most liberal Democrat in the Senate wants you as a VP, you ain't much of a Republican.
1,938 posted on 05/23/2005 8:47:16 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

You're right -- it IS the same thing all over again.


1,939 posted on 05/23/2005 8:47:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
... they can just let Dirty Harry and the 'Rats (or is it Harry and the Dirty 'Rats) filibuster and then say that their hands are tied by the MOU.

And they have to put their agreement into action by voting. Just watch this play.

1,940 posted on 05/23/2005 8:48:16 PM PDT by Cboldt
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