Chinese Naval Vessel, CVN Class 0, strike range 0, Cruising speed 1 knot.
lol :P
Posted on 05/20/2005 8:09:59 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
Every day, the economic power and political influence of Red China continues to increase. I am, however, interested in knowing how powerful China is militarily. Is China strong enough to defeat the US in a conventional war? The latest I heard is that they have a total of 10 million trained to serve in their military, including reserves. I would especially like to hear from Freeper veterans as well as those serving in the military, on the potential threat that China poses to the United States.
Quote: Anyone talking about a Chinese invasion of the US is so profoundly stupid I'm frankly shocked they can operate a computer successfully.
I'm glad I humor you.
Terrosist knocking down two great financial towers and crashing planes into the Penatgon and just about near wrecking our economy is also a fantasy too right??????
Would Japan go nuclear? And I would hope that your comments were true. But when we are trying to be so PC with everyone and get the worlds approval to wipe our a#@, it could present a problem. President Bush will not be in the White House forever. Another Clinton and we could get caught with our pants down or at least he would. ;)
No, it'd be "No Blood for WalMart"
How about "No blood for Harbor Freight Tools."
Of course they're our enemies. I already outlined our strategy for defeating them. You are working on the assumption that they can continue to play with fire and not get burned. I don't think that can hold up over the long term. The more freedom and prosperity come to China, the larger the middle class, the better it is for us. We export consumer culture and Hollywood. Young Chinese don't want to fight us, they want their MTV.
SD
Quote: Anyone talking about a Chinese invasion of the US is so profoundly stupid I'm frankly shocked they can operate a computer successfully.
I betcha there are war gamers in the pentagon with MORE BRAINS than you that have planned for such an attack and take it very seriously.
this is a threat to our livestyle - a big one.
A friend of mine is a project leader for Bayer Engineering. He's in China in the moment. He consideres the situation to be 'not at all funny'.
He says these guys will roll us in leaves and smoke us in about 10 years (we = EU)
Now will you stop chearing !!!
They will get used to smoke western civilizations you know...
I take issue with that one the following grounds:
Japan was an Asian military mimicking Western ways of warfare, although they did manage to institutue uniquely Japanese cultural forms into their war fighting capability. Simply put, Japanese arms in the 1905 war and Japanese tactics were far more western than those utilized by the Russians.
Had Russia continued the fight, Japan would have been overcome. As it was, Japan merely won the battles it needed to and it's opponent gave up. The tables were truned in 1939 along the Manchurian border when the Russians finally fought the Japanese under the rules of Western warfare: bring enough firepower, pile on and annhilate the enemy. It was the Japanese that caved in after Nomonhon.
Had either conflict been caried out to it's logical conclusion, Japan would have lost both times. Japan won a tactical and political victory in 1905, not a strategic victory that would ensure Japanese hegemony in Asia. Russia was not so much defeated by Japan in 1904-05 as it was embarrassed. Japan's major victories were at sea, but it left Russian land power virtually intact.
Most Russians don't consider themselves Western
Quote: The WTC attack was just that, an attack. New York was not invaded.
Pearl Harbor was also just attacked. Not invaded (except for the 2 man mini sub).
http://www.securityinfowatch.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=388&id=3651 China building port in Mexico.
I think we could take them on their own soil in less than two months. That's if they allow us enough time to build-up in Japan or the Korean peninsula.
The problem with the Chinese is that they do not have the maneuver capability and communication that we do. They also do not have the will to fight. Why would a poor bunch of conscripts fight for less Freedom?
The Chinese would fold like a cheap paper sack, and they know it. That is why they won't look for a military solution to Taiwan ...at least while a Republican is in office.
lol - im glad we are not trying this - are we ?
We have to ask Tom Clancy on this one.
yeah but that's no paperflyer in the background is it ?
It's just a piece of rice stuck to the lens. :) lol
ROFL..I'd guarantee you the juvenile fantasy of a Chinese invasion of the US mainland hasn't even been remotely gamed by anyone in the US miltary.
Even the Japanese in World War II not only didn't even remotely plan for an invasion of the US mainland, they didn't even remotely think about it.
Logistics...Logistics. Everything in war is logistics. It's ignored by armchair amateurs though. Do you even know what the word means? I doubt it.
China is not a fortress.It has very real physical and geographic vulnerabilities. The destruction of any one of several dams would render over half of its industrial capacity useless.
Although it does have a large land army, but these are for the most part poorly trained and equipped. They have at best a 2nd tier airforce an a third rate blue water navy. They have no means to project power beyond thier own borders.
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