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Undocumented Workers (Illegals) Could Get Some Help (Madison, WI)
Madison.com ^ | May 10, 2005 | Judith Davidoff

Posted on 05/18/2005 8:18:12 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Undocumented workers who pay Social Security taxes would be eligible for homeownership and housing rehab assistance from the city, under a proposal endorsed by the Board of Estimates. (Madison, WI)

The City Council will consider the measure next Tuesday.

In an interview, Barb Constans, grants administrator for the Community Development Block Grant Commission, said the commission took five months to come up with underwriting criteria to mitigate some of the risks the city would face in loaning funds to undocumented residents.

Under the proposal, for instance, undocumented residents would have to come up with at least a 5 percent down payment.

Constans said the city's debt-to-income ratios are also more stringent than what many lenders' require.

The proposal aims to help an "underserved population" in the city, she said. "These are individuals working in the U.S., earning money and paying taxes."

Undocumented workers without Social Security numbers often are required to obtain ITIN numbers (individual tax identification number) from the federal government through which they pay taxes they will likely never see back in the form of Social Security retirement benefits.

Ald. Zach Brandon queried Constans and Peter Munoz, director of Centro Hispano, on the justification for the measure, but little opposition was expressed at the Board of Estimates meeting Monday and it passed easily.

Ald. Austin King, a member of the Community Development Block Grant Commission, said in an interview he could not support the proposal as is because it creates a two-tier system.

Only undocumented workers have to come up with a 5 percent down payment from another source, he said.

"If you are documented you can get 100 percent loan to value," said King.

But King said he supports the main aim of the proposal and will try to amend it when it is considered by the full City Council.

"On the whole, this is a great step forward for Madison," he said. "It really brings us into the 21st century in terms of our practices as a lender. This is the direction the entire country is heading in."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist
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Ald. Austin King: "On the whole, this is a great step forward for Madison," he said. "It really brings us into the 21st century in terms of our practices as a lender. This is the direction the entire country is heading in."

And they see NOTHING wrong with this! Visit CA! Visit AZ! Visit NM!

Yesterday, I was in Madison, and the Walgreen's there now has an entire greeting card section all in Spanish!

Wisconsinites? Remember this Socialist's name.

I'm spittin' nails over this. What a crock! The average LEGAL, tax-paying, hard-working "Citizen Schmuck" in Madison can't even afford a home there due to the property taxes and they want special help for ILLEGALS? Aarrgghhh!

1 posted on 05/18/2005 8:18:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Oh, good gawd!


2 posted on 05/18/2005 8:20:32 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Undocumented workers who pay Social Security taxes...

Ok... If they are UNDOCUMENTED then whose SS account are they paying into?

If they buy a house and pay taxes, then who is getting credit on a social security number?

3 posted on 05/18/2005 8:21:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

WOW! Unbelievable! A great incentive for those crossing our borders illegally! C'mon on over we'll help you live free on taxpayers money... Nice going WI! :(


4 posted on 05/18/2005 8:22:06 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The average LEGAL, tax-paying, hard-working "Citizen Schmuck" in Madison can't even afford a home there due to the property taxes and they want special help for ILLEGALS?

LOL, don't you know that the "new home building sector" is up 11% since January? Now you know why......

5 posted on 05/18/2005 8:24:42 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: Mr. K

To let the media tell it, the illegals are the only ones who pay taxes.


6 posted on 05/18/2005 8:24:47 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

WHAAAA??? Who benefits because undocumented Mexicans are in the country? The cheap-labor mills that hire them. So, my tax dollars are going to subsidize people who won't give Americans good jobs, and then, I have to watch my neighborhood overflow with people who don't care enough about the country to legally become citizens.

Nice. Nice. Isn't that some kind of "reverse socialism" or something?


7 posted on 05/18/2005 8:26:57 AM PDT by MsJefferson (Self-evident)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We just came back from a visit with family in Rib Lake,Wi.We ate lunch in this McDonalds in Madison,it had a fireplace in it!

The town had Mexican`s everywhere we were. Mom said who`d have thought, Mexicans in Wisconsin.Jeeze


8 posted on 05/18/2005 8:32:20 AM PDT by tnfarmer
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I would think illegal aliens (oops I mean undocumented workers) would be a very high credit risk. But what do I know--them folks in the People's Republic of Madison are so much smarter than everyone else.


9 posted on 05/18/2005 8:34:32 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The only thing "undocumented workers" (aka criminals) should be eligible for is immediate deportation to their country of origin. Give'em a hundred bucks and put'em on a plane home.

The hundred bucks should give'em housing and food until they can get from their arrival airport to their home (it takes a-) village.

10 posted on 05/18/2005 8:34:33 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Ald. Austin King, a member of the Community Development Block Grant Commission, said in an interview he could not support the proposal as is because it creates a two-tier system. Only undocumented workers have to come up with a 5 percent down payment from another source, he said. "If you are documented you can get 100 percent loan to value," said King.

Yes...how unfair. Law-abiding residents (who, presumably, can't get loans from private lenders that have to lend their own money) get the taxpayer to loan them 100%...but if you are a criminal, you have to put down 5% before getting a loan from the taxpayers...which is more outrageous? Taxpayer-funded loans to people that private lender wouldn't lend to?...OR...people whining that illegal alien (i.e. federal felons) don't get the same welfare goodies as legal residents?

11 posted on 05/18/2005 8:35:46 AM PDT by Irontank (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don't forget, Nevada, and Texas.


12 posted on 05/18/2005 8:36:08 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: freespirited
I would think illegal aliens (oops I mean undocumented workers) would be a very high credit risk.

Don't worry, loans are backed by the FDIC, with the full faith and credit of the US government.....errr, I mean US taxpayer

13 posted on 05/18/2005 8:37:43 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We in Madison are having a hard time recruiting enough welfare recipients from Chicago to come live here to drain our treasury and swell our crime rolls so we have to turn to illegals to make up the difference.


14 posted on 05/18/2005 8:40:27 AM PDT by hubbubhubbub
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It's really wonderful that some of our cities have so much extra money lying around that they can pass it out with both hands.
15 posted on 05/18/2005 8:41:10 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: RoseofTexas

Madison is usually defined as 40 square miles surounded by reality.....The rest of Wisconsin hopes we can get all of the illegals to go to Madison, then we can put up a fence and trap all of them together with the liberals. What a dream!!


16 posted on 05/18/2005 8:42:47 AM PDT by newcthem
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Undocumented workers Illegal aliens who pay Social Security taxes by using either stolen or forged Social Security cards would be eligible for homeownership and housing rehab assistance from the city, under a proposal endorsed by the Board of Estimates. (Madison, WI)

Madison WI, meet Los Angeles, CA

Welcome to our world!

Sharing in the dream (MAJOR Deceptive Title Alert!!!)

... Lenders are working to eliminate obstacles to ownership by easing conventional loan rules.

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Those challenges can include all-cash incomes and lack of traditional established credit, said Munera, who works with Pasadena Dickson Podley Realtors ...

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Some buyers lack federal W-2 forms ... but they qualify for mortgages because many of the country's biggest lenders have adopted creative credit practices.

Countrywide's Optimum Loan Program ... provides loans to qualified buyers with nontraditional credit, such as rent and utility bill receipts, and whose income is received in cash.

First American Corp. in Orange County ... uses its own qualifying criteria rather than the usual FICO scores. The company also guarantees closing costs and in some cases offers low- to moderate-income customers a 25% discount on those expenditures ...

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Immigrant households often have three or more workers, which helps the families qualify for loans ... It's not uncommon to have two or three families' names on one title document, said Mike Garcia, a Realty Masters agent ...

17 posted on 05/18/2005 8:54:26 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Austin King is an idiot. He was elected to the council as a student when I was also a UW student. The problem is that the students have enough of a population that they get a few seats on the council, and paired with the idiot leftists who are permanent residents, they can out-vote the people who have any sense. I seem to recall that King was one of the "living wage" campaign leaders - proposing something like a $9.50 minimum wage in the city.


18 posted on 05/18/2005 8:58:48 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: newcthem

"The rest of Wisconsin hopes we can get all of the illegals to go to Madison, then we can put up a fence and trap all of them together with the liberals. What a dream!!"

That's not a bad plan, actually. I wish I could live another 50 years to see Madison turn into the tarpit it so dearly wants to be. I'll be up North and out of this Blue Zone by then, Thank God.

I'm not counting on any of the Pubbies in this town to make one whit of a difference now or ever. Spineless weenies.


19 posted on 05/18/2005 9:00:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: All

What do they offer to native born American citizens?


20 posted on 05/18/2005 9:12:26 AM PDT by blueblazes
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