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I have to look at the rest of it as freedom of religion. I can’t get past that. We have to give them that; but, I don’t think that they should be meeting in places like the university.

I think these bigoted, anti-Christian multiculturalists are losing it.

1 posted on 05/17/2005 2:01:31 PM PDT by Irontank
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the Washington County Green Party and the OMNI Center for Peace, Justice and Ecology

How curious. I guess they're demonstrating that "ecology" is a religion, and objecting to the appearance of a competing religion.

2 posted on 05/17/2005 2:03:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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"Fight intolerance by not tolerating anyone different from you!"
-- A message from NOW, the Washington County Green Party and the OMNI Center for Peace, Justice and Ecology.
3 posted on 05/17/2005 2:06:48 PM PDT by inkling
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they want to educate men who are going to these events so they have the opportunity to think beyond Promise Keepers’ rhetoric, to what they called the propaganda behind it.

Then they should just rent the stadium like PK does and hold their own anti-Christian rally. Sheesh!

4 posted on 05/17/2005 2:07:12 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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How the athiests (the Left) fear and hate Christianity.

Let us now the cowed by them. It is our country - One Nation Under God - not theirs.


5 posted on 05/17/2005 2:07:47 PM PDT by Pittsburg Phil
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Tarvin, Bennett and Dietzel said their purpose is twofold. They want the university to bar Promise Keepers from the campus and they want to educate men who are going to these events so they have the opportunity to think beyond Promise Keepers’ rhetoric, to what they called the propaganda behind it.

Clearly these three believe are smarter than everyone else.

Typical arrogant liberals.

6 posted on 05/17/2005 2:07:55 PM PDT by poindexters brother
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Promote diversity by barring a group from campus!

What is WRONG with me that, no matter how hard I try, I can't find one shred of logic in any liberal position?

7 posted on 05/17/2005 2:08:19 PM PDT by TheBigB ("So you're saying...there's a treasure map...on the back of...the Declaration of Independence?")
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"We try to promote thinking and critical analysis and then we let this huge meeting come in with this one narrow viewpoint and try to promote it to everyone on campus."

Imagine that, a narrow viewpoint being promoted on a college campus in the US.

Whoda' thunk it...


8 posted on 05/17/2005 2:08:55 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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There’s no way that competing viewpoints could get the stadium; they wouldn’t have enough people here,"

What is there to add to that?

10 posted on 05/17/2005 2:09:38 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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I don't give a rat patootie what these bigots think. It's a public venue.


11 posted on 05/17/2005 2:09:52 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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For NOW President Melanie Dietzel, the issue is the inappropriateness of a non-diverse group using the facilities of a diverse campus

In other words, diversity is A-OK, as long as it is NOW-approved diversity. That really means people with non-NOW points of view aren't allowed to express their points of view on state-owned property.

12 posted on 05/17/2005 2:09:55 PM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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I agree. They do have a narrow point of view. Who do they think they are? Imagine, a group which thinks keeping promises is something to be valued.

Which promises?

1. A Promise Keeper is committed to honoring Jesus Christ through worship, prayer and obedience to God's Word in the power of the Holy Spirit.

2. A Promise Keeper is committed to pursuing vital relationships with a few other men, understanding that he needs brothers to help him keep his promises.

3. A Promise Keeper is committed to practicing spiritual, moral, ethical, and sexual purity.

4. A Promise Keeper is committed to building strong marriages and families through love, protection and biblical values.

5. A Promise Keeper is committed to supporting the mission of his church by honoring and praying for his pastor, and by actively giving his time and resources.

6. A Promise Keeper is committed to reaching beyond any racial and denominational barriers to demonstrate the power of biblical unity.

7. A Promise Keeper is committed to influencing his world, being obedient to the Great Commandment (see Mark 12:30-31) and the Great Commission (see Matthew 28:19-20).


16 posted on 05/17/2005 2:12:59 PM PDT by Raycpa
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We try to promote thinking and critical analysis and then we let this huge meeting come in with this one narrow viewpoint and try to promote it to everyone on campus.

Are the Promise Keepers forcing people to attend their gathering who aren't interested in attending?

17 posted on 05/17/2005 2:13:00 PM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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"... and we are promoting diversity at the university"

The irony is too much. Diversity as long as it fits their narrow view of the world... They claim to promote what they obviously don't know the meaning of.


18 posted on 05/17/2005 2:13:47 PM PDT by DB (©)
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For example, he cited the Promise Keepers’ commitment to biblical values without identifying which biblical values, even though Bennett said the Bible has many contradictory values.

God is not tolerant..If the 10 commandments are any example

He just will not tolerate those who believe it is their right to break them..

I guess some folks just can't tolerate God's intolerance.

Or the idea that some things are right and other things are plain wrong.

19 posted on 05/17/2005 2:14:34 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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Unless I'm very confused public stadiums, schools, etc. have been rented out to religious groups for many decades.

When they rent the stadium, it stops being a public facility for the period of the rental. Renting out a space does not imply any endorsement of the group renting it.


21 posted on 05/17/2005 2:15:20 PM PDT by Restorer
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You’re inviting parents to bring their kids and you have this going on, on campus.

Oh the horrors of having Promise Keepers on campus as opposed to MTV spring break, keg parties, gay lesbian trans-gender conventions and whatever else the left deems appropriate. It would be very interesting to get a list of campus events at the University of Arkansas, just for the contrast.

23 posted on 05/17/2005 2:15:23 PM PDT by QueenBee3
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It's the typical "diversity" of the left - ban those who don't adhere to the viewpoints of the far left.


24 posted on 05/17/2005 2:15:43 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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"I don’t think this singleminded group should have their meeting here. It’s not an all-encompassing group and we are promoting diversity at the university," said Marian Kunetka, an archeologist at the Arkansas Archeological Survey at the University of Arkansas.

Translations: "We believe in diversity through exclusion."

25 posted on 05/17/2005 2:16:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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...It’s not an all-encompassing group and we are promoting diversity

Diversity, except for Christianity ofcourse.

26 posted on 05/17/2005 2:16:29 PM PDT by SampleMan
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There’s no way that competing viewpoints could get the stadium; they wouldn’t have enough people here," added Wanda Stephens

So, go down to Stuckey's and reserve a corner booth, Wanda. Spend a couple of hours trying to figure out why they have so many and you have so few.

27 posted on 05/17/2005 2:17:49 PM PDT by siunevada
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