Posted on 05/17/2005 2:01:29 PM PDT by Irontank
Promise Keepers may bring many people and dollars to Fayetteville, but they also bring intolerance, according to a consortium of groups that say Razorback Stadium should not be used to promote a religious viewpoint. "I dont think this singleminded group should have their meeting here. Its not an all-encompassing group and we are promoting diversity at the university," said Marian Kunetka, an archeologist at the Arkansas Archeological Survey at the University of Arkansas.
"I have to look at the rest of it as freedom of religion. I cant get past that. We have to give them that; but, I dont think that they should be meeting in places like the university." "We try to promote thinking and critical analysis and then we let this huge meeting come in with this one narrow viewpoint and try to promote it to everyone on campus. Theres no way that competing viewpoints could get the stadium; they wouldnt have enough people here," added Wanda Stephens, immediate pastpresident of the Arkansas National Organization of Women.
NOW, the Washington County Green Party and the OMNI Center for Peace, Justice and Ecology joined forces to voice concerns Sunday evening about the Promise Keepers rally scheduled June 10-11 at the University of Arkansas campus.
Promise Keepers is dedicated to igniting and uniting men to be passionate followers of Jesus Christ through the effective communication of Seven Promises, according to the groups mission statement.
According to Dick Bennett, retired professor of English and president of the OMNI center, that very mission speaks to the groups intolerance of others. "They are extremely exclusive in favor of Christianity to the exclusion of all the other religions," Bennett said. "This is a very fundamentalist, intolerant religious organization. Even though they say they are open to all denominations, ethnic and cultural backgrounds, they really mean if those different peoples will convert to Christian," he said.
Bennett repeatedly accused Promise Keepers of being deceptive in promoting its tolerance.
He went through the seven promises one-by-one to make his points.
For example, he cited the Promise Keepers commitment to biblical values without identifying which biblical values, even though Bennett said the Bible has many contradictory values.
Promise No. 6, which speaks to "reaching beyond any racial and denominational barriers," sounds tolerant, Bennett said. "But the rest of the sentence says to demonstrate the power of biblical unity. Well, biblical unity is to believe in the Trinitarian doctrine of the Christian church. So, its very deceptive, and I assume its deliberate," he said.
The Seventh Promise speaks to obedience to Jesus Great Commandment of loving God and ones neighbor and to the Great Commission, which calls Christians to "go make disciples."
No one in the room, he said, would argue with the Great Commandment, "but the Great Commission takes us back into this tangled and exclusive argument," he declared. "Theyre calling on all people to be disciples of Jesus. If they were in their church, we wouldnt have any problem with that. But they are on a public athletic field, and we think that this is inappropriate for the University of Arkansas," Bennett said.
For the Green Party, the issues with the Promise Keepers are numerous, according to Carol Tarvin, who described the Promise Keepers as wolves in sheeps clothing.
Green Party members, she said, seek to preserve religious freedom and diversity and rejects the call to create a "Christian nation."
She quoted Promise Keepers founder Bill McCartney as stating, "Theres coming a day when the strongest voice in America will be that of a Christian male." "We consider that a frightening prospect not only for women but for all people who subscribe to other forms of faith, as protected under the American Constitution," she said.
She added during the discussion, "If they want us to be submissive in the home, do they want us to be their bosses at work? Do they want us to get Ph. D. s in college? Do they want us to have financial independence? I dont think so."
For NOW President Melanie Dietzel, the issue is the inappropriateness of a non-diverse group using the facilities of a diverse campus. "Youre inviting parents to bring their kids and you have this going on, on campus. What kind of message is that sending about their true dedication to diversity?" she asked. "My point is, our university is saying we have this diversity plan in place that we want to protect, encourage, support, be tolerant of all of this diversity. And yet, in our Razorback Stadium, were going to have speakers who have made these broad statements openly defying the philosophy of the university. I just think this flies in the face of what theyre promoting as the universitys real efforts at diversity."
Asked if the university might be allowing diversity by allowing the Promise Keepers to use the campus, Dietzel answered, "No. I am for freedom of speech and I am for freedom of religion, and I think its important to protect that, but not when its something designed to hurt other people. Im not saying physically. Their rhetoric is certainly hurtful to people and I dont think thats something the university should encourage."
Tarvin, Bennett and Dietzel said their purpose is twofold. They want the university to bar Promise Keepers from the campus and they want to educate men who are going to these events so they have the opportunity to think beyond Promise Keepers rhetoric, to what they called the propaganda behind it.
Keep in mind that these are the tenured bigots who insist to their last breaths on their right to "Academic Freedom." If tenured bigots can express any ideas they want at a university, why can't members of the public they're supposed to "serve?" Hypocrites as always!
If you want to see diversity and unity in the same locale attend a Promise Keepers rally. Atheists are welcome.
Now, who did all these activists vote for in the last election? Bush or Kerry? All of those quote are obviously anti-mainstream, run of the mill, American-style Christianity. And the Democrats wonder, why normal, average Christian Americans are tending to identify the Democrats as anti-Christian, anti-values. All of these people, fairly or unfairly are identified with the values and beliefs of the modern Democrat Party.
Send this to George Will. He's living in denial.
You are suffering from a common conservative malady called "logic." It is a condition that causes the suffer to look for things to actually make sense. Fortunately, liberals do not suffer from this terrible malady!
I think these bigoted, anti-Christian multiculturalists are losing it.
I think these Nazis should have their behinds sued off.
""I dont think this singleminded group should have their meeting here. Its not an all-encompassing group and we are promoting diversity at the university," said Marian Kunetka, an archeologist at the Arkansas Archeological Survey at the University of Arkansas.
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Atheism is a "singleminded group ", bent on hatred of Christians.
Her liberal idea of "promoting diversity" means alternatives to Christianity, but it does not include Christianity.
Multiculturalism -- hate teach
Marian Kunetha is being very single minded in her exclusion of Promise Keepers as an acceptable group in her circle of unbelievers.
She quoted Promise Keepers founder Bill McCartney as stating, "Theres coming a day when the strongest voice in America will be that of a Christian male." "We consider that a frightening prospect not only for women but for all people who subscribe to other forms of faith, as protected under the American Constitution," she said.
Uh, wasn't the American Constitution written by mostly Christian males with the strongest voice?
They don't have to rent stadiums. They have unfettered access to the MSM. Doesn't get any bigger than that.
-PJ
That's because there are no contradictory values in the Bible.
What's happening there is pure Christophobia. "Exclusive" is just an excuse. All men are invited to PK events.
And don't we have a strong voice in America right now, aka GW Bush, who is a Christian male?
I look forward to the day more and more Christian males make their voices heard in this nation. More need to be elected, so the values will go up, instead of being forced to "blend in so we don't offend anyone."
I don't understand people like this who don't stand for anything, but just don't want Christians to voice their concerns.
I agree. :)
Where were they for Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones ?
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