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Victor Davis Hanson: A Quick Fix — Do Your Own Dishes
Jewish World Review ^ | May 16, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/16/2005 6:44:31 AM PDT by Tolik

Open borders are a disaster. They undermine respect for the law, imperil homeland security, allow Mexico to export its apparently unwanted people rather than embrace much-needed economic reform, and preclude unionization by poorer, entry-level American workers.

One proposed solution, a new guest-worker program, ignores why the old bracero program was scraped decades ago, when laborers resented the idea that they were good enough to work for, but not to live among, Americans. The proposed program also lacks enforcement provisions to deal with the millions of aliens who will not participate in the program but still try to cross the border.

There is a reasonable approach to the United States' immigration problem, but it would require concessions all around....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; illegals; immigrantlist; mexico; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: Tolik
My husband did landscaping as a teen, as well as janitorial work.
On that note, I read a vent to our paper the other day. A complaint about a teen not beong able to find a job, because they were already filled by illegals.
41 posted on 05/16/2005 9:49:08 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
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To: DumpsterDiver
There are also legal immigrants who might want to do the job. The whole issue of ILLEGAL immigration (besides all other reasons mentioned in the article and by posters here) is totally unfair to the LEGAL immigrants who play by the rules and wait in the long lines.

But one point that everyone makes is so obvious that it is even strange to discuss it: the borders should be closed. Period. No action makes sense without it. Close the border and control legal immigration...

42 posted on 05/16/2005 9:55:19 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: JasonC

We the people certainly have since the polls are showing over 80% support for taking action toward securing that damn border. We've won this debate. We now have the vox populi on our side. Getting the Senatorum to act is another matter, but they know they can ignore the people only so far, and then they lose their jobs, their power and their perks.

We need to keep up the fire. Keep the pressure on.


43 posted on 05/16/2005 9:59:25 AM PDT by johnb838 (Technology will never change human nature.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Add in the higher crime rates among the illegal Mexicans in the US than among other ethnic groups, and you can see that these are people that Mexico is better off without.

If it comes to some kind of amnesty, I would hope we could do something with the 'raw material' that Mexico can't seem to do.

44 posted on 05/16/2005 10:09:24 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Valin
We are a melting pot, not a salad bowl — a multiracial not a multicultural nation.

I like that analogy - I'll be borrowing it!
45 posted on 05/16/2005 10:09:58 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
I work with Mexican illegals every day, and believe it's significant that at least half of the illegals I see are illiterate to the point of not being able to write a complete sentence in Spanish, or any other language.

Now that is scary. Since they are not literate in their own language, they won't be able to learn to read or write English as well. That's the same problem with the children of illegals in our public schools. Children from other countries that know their own language well can be taught English - and the other subjects - and be proficient.
46 posted on 05/16/2005 10:15:04 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: Tanniker Smith
mow your own lawn,

You don't have to do that. I have two friends with their own lawn mowing businesses, do the work themselves or hire family, and neither one is a dam furner.
Well, one ain't a furner, the other is from Boston.

47 posted on 05/16/2005 10:49:19 AM PDT by tnlibertarian ("In my opinion, they have no rights, except a safe return to their homeland. - "Robert Vazquez")
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To: Tolik
But one point that everyone makes is so obvious that it is even strange to discuss it: the borders should be closed. Period. No action makes sense without it. Close the border and control legal immigration...

Politicians have made this into a much more daunting task than it needs to be, because their first priority seems to be staying in office. Honesty need not apply if it would interfere with that happening.

Instead of taking what will be harsh measures to at least somebody, they keep trying to straddle the fence and make everybody happy. That is not possible.

A good start would've been announcing on 9/12/2001 that anybody crossing our borders, other than at the legal ports of entry, would be shot on sight.

Period.

End of story.

And with no apologies to

A N Y B O D Y.

48 posted on 05/16/2005 10:59:05 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: All
RE: vote the rascals out

Wouldn't it be nice if a party formed from the Minute Men Project, MoveAmericaForward, the swift boat (and other) vets, and the hundreds of other Country-before-Party-and-greed groups threw both Rats and Republicans out of Washington?

The recall in California was not a partisan issue. In fact, both the Democrats and the Republican Party opposed the recall. Once the Republicans saw that the people were going to be successful they elbowed everyone aside and took over with their man.

49 posted on 05/16/2005 12:07:54 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Goo- goo- google, good bye!)
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To: Tolik
They'd also need to accept a legitimate, foolproof national identity card, and grant a one-time amnesty — not the periodic pardons of the past — for the millions of Mexicans who have lived in the United States for at least five years

BS. A general amnesty now would simply turn the U.S. over to Mexico, by virtue of swing vote politics and family reunification immigration.

At this point in history approximately half the people in Mexico have a relative in the United States. If those in the U.S. are legalized over the next 6 - 10 years, another 44 million in Mexico will be eligible to immigrate here as family members. And after that happens, virtually the rest of the country will become eligible, since everyone in Mexico will then have a family member who is either a U.S. Legal Permanent Resident or a citizen.

At that point, the ethnic majority in the United States will be Mexican - since there will be something like 130 million of them. When did we vote to become Mexico?

And it gets worse. Since for some unknown reason, members of the linguistic group "hispanics" are afforded un-equal treatment as a group in admission to schools and jobs (commonly known as affirmative action). This robot-like mechanism will require more and more of their group to displace any one of caucasian persuasion, whether Lithuanian or Irish, since in-Justice Sandra "Sandy Baby" O'Connor asserted that said preferences are a "compelling government interest in diversity", not a rectification of past wrongs.

In other words, the more that come...the more they get, as a result of judicial fiat. Something that VDH refuses to address.

His whole argument here is that mass immigration is no problem as long as they assimilate. Crap. Mass immigration of either flavor (legal or illegal) is the problem. The Americans should have the right to decide who will live among them. We should not be compelled to live with our enemies. Immigration should be low and controlled, a situation that existed for virtually all of American history except for the spike in the late 19th century - early 20th, and the last 30 years.

50 posted on 05/16/2005 12:20:03 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Toddsterpatriot

And those like you that accept lawless behavior from the GOP are why the DC elites feel they are better then the rest of us and above the law. You let them get away with it.


51 posted on 05/16/2005 2:14:25 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: Regulator
"When did we vote to become Mexico?"

George Bush and the GOP don't give a damn about you or your vote. They plan on ruling the New World Order, and there will be not United States of America (or it's Constitution) in the New World Order.

52 posted on 05/16/2005 2:23:40 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Victor Davis Hanson ~ Bump!


53 posted on 05/16/2005 2:51:39 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: jpsb
You let them get away with it.

As opposed to you who stopped them?

54 posted on 05/16/2005 3:06:30 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: altura
I'll do my dishes, but what about my yard?????

Do what we've done. Hired a retired gentleman who lives on our street. He does a NICE job, doesn't charge much, it gives HIM something to do AND some extra $$.

55 posted on 05/16/2005 10:27:01 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: jpsb
Nothing will happen until thne GOP is throw out of DC. Which can begin to happen in 06. If the GOP will not enforce the laws throw them out of office.

Oh, yeah! Throw out the GOP while leaving the Democrats alone.


56 posted on 05/17/2005 12:20:34 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: johnb838
Maybe they instinctively understand that by the concept of comparative advantage...

And BREAKING THE FRIGGIN' LAW!

57 posted on 05/17/2005 5:21:29 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: rdb3

If teh Rats allow illegals to over run the country too then throw them out next. Keep throwing elected office holders out until we find someone anyone to stop this madness.


58 posted on 05/17/2005 8:10:59 AM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Well, I do have a Mexican gardner. He is not illegal. He does go back to his farm in Mexico during the winter.

He is a wonderful guy and we adore him.

I have not investigated his helpers and can't say that it has worried me much.

There is an older gentleman on our street but he is sitting in his chair at the moment and snoring.


59 posted on 05/17/2005 10:57:09 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura
There is an older gentleman on our street but he is sitting in his chair at the moment and snoring.

LOL! Well, for Pete's sake...let 'im SLEEP! :)

60 posted on 05/17/2005 6:05:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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