Posted on 05/15/2005 12:00:22 AM PDT by HAL9000
The question comes to the post about "Rice '08". That's a point of debate. I'd like to know the answer.
You're a smash hit here tonight, maybe you should hire a manager?
Good Night!
Mike
I never take it personally. Sleep well, Mike.
That was one person, good grief. One person and it was not MJY. For THAT, you turned this thread inside out, even demanding that everyone state whether they think Condi should succeed President Bush. Very deceptively, you began by claiming you merely disagreed with her visit going into breaking news. Boy was that ever a coverup, which you soon revealed.
PIFFLE..
The why not address it to the poster? You went off the deep end because posters advocated the thread be moved to breaking news.
Our marines have been fighting and dying this week..any visit that may in any way boost morale is great..God bless our troops and God bless Secy of State Rice.
Calling your attention to your own post, in which you imply, strongly, that MJY is going ga-ga over Rice's visit, whereas according to your own words no one went ga-ga over Powell's visit. The implication is unmistakable. Later, you deny ever saying that he is going ga-ga over her visit. Right here, you do everything you can to IMPLY it. All you needed was a flashing neon sign to complete the job. He took it that way, as he replied, "Who is going ga-ga?, for which I don't blame him. That is precisely how your words would have to be taken.
That's interesting to me as well. I note that our country took much longer than 3 months to come up with a Constitution, and didn't even get it right the first time (Articles of Confederation).
bump to read later.
Hmm, I guess Condi didn't go to parts of Baghdad where, according to last week, in CNN's interviews with various inhabitants, life was barely survivable, worse than under Saddam. Saddam at least assured them of predictable power outages, twice a day for two hours. Now they have power out for hours any old time day or night. Plus a crumbling infrastructure, raw sewage flowing in the streets, the result of years of neglect. The viewer was supposed to infer that this is the result of A. the US backed oil for food catastrophe, B. the Iraq War, take your pick, either one, and C. George Bush.
Nowhere did anyone complain about terrorists murdering US paid workers trying to repair city's infrastructure. Nobody mentioned the daily horror of life under Saddam, missing friends and relatives -- now heaps of bones in mass graves. No, Baghdad's citizens, at least the three interviewed by CNN, were more concerned about having to shop daily for fresh produce, not to mention having to buy ice for the icebox. Life in Baghdad is hard.
Condi herself has publicly pointed out the time and difficulties involved when America was getting started. The reason she is so focused on the timing of their efforts is because she wants them to be a whole country as soon as possible, including as many of the Sunnis as possible, lest Iraq break apart into chaos and civil war which is what the terrorists want. In our history, while there were threats and struggles, we didn't face massive bombings in the streets, assassinations almost daily and kidnappings virtually every week to try and bring us down.
Mrs. Rice? Condi's mother?
Well, don't we all want Iraq to be a whole country as soon as possible? I'm just pointing out that true nation-building isn't necessarily an "instant" process, all the more so when you're trying to unite such disparate factions.
In our history, while there were threats and struggles, we didn't face massive bombings in the streets, assassinations almost daily and kidnappings virtually every week to try and bring us down.
In our history, it took us 5-6 years to defeat the British, and it certainly wasn't a bloodless struggle. Not everyone wanted independence, so some colonists fought with the British. In the end, at least in some areas, Tory sympathizers were stripped of their property and deported.
We'll have to see what happens. In the end, the majority of Iraqis are going to have to want, and be willing to fight for, their freedom. (I'm not saying some aren't now - you'll notice that now the insurgents are basically targeting the freedom-loving Iraqis, not the Americans.)
Jees, what 8 times in one thread !?! Are you drinking a little ?
Maybe start a thread ?
Gotta love the Babelfish translation...
When was Condi married?
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