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KEN STARR'S REAL VIEWS
NRO Corner ^ | 05/12/05 | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 05/12/2005 10:45:25 AM PDT by Pikamax

KEN STARR'S REAL VIEWS [Ramesh Ponnuru]

CBS, AP, and other outlets reported earlier this week that Starr had said that getting rid of the judicial filibuster would be a "radical, radical departure from our history and our traditions, and it amounts to an assault on the judicial branch of government."

This seemed like a very odd thing for Starr to say, so I contacted him.

He forwarded to me an email he had sent to someone else who had asked about this matter:

"In the piece that I have now seen, and which I gather is being lavishly quoted, CBS employed two snippets. The 'radical departure' snippet was specifically addressed -- although this is not evidenced whatever from the clip -- to the practice of invoking judicial philosopy as a grounds for voting against a qualified nominee of integrity and experience. I said in sharp language that that practice was wrong. I contrasted the current practice . . . with what occurred during Ruth Ginsburg's nomination process, as numerous Republicans voted (rightly) to confirm a former ACLU staff lawyer. They disagreed with her positions as a lawyer, but they voted (again, rightly) to confirm her. Why? Because elections, like ideas, have consequences. . . . In the interview, I did indeed suggest, and have suggested elsewhere, that caution and prudence be exercised (Burkean that I am) in shifting/modifying rules (that's the second snippet), but I likewise made clear that the 'filibuster' represents an entirely new use (and misuse) of a venerable tradition. . . .

"[O]ur friends are way off base in assuming that the CBS snippets, as used, represent (a) my views, or (b) what I in fact said."


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To: CWW
This is Hugh and Series!

I am deeply saddened.(but not surprised)

I hope DRUDGE post this soon.

61 posted on 05/12/2005 11:00:44 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Howlin

Outrageous. Now the question remains: were those really Newt Gingrich's remarks (about what a wonderful person Hillary is) that Rush was ranting about yesterday?


62 posted on 05/12/2005 11:01:20 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Digger

When Ken Starr sent the e-mail to Rush, this had a bigger effect than a press conference would have had. The MSM would have ignored it, but Rush can't be ignored.

The only thing that amazes me is that it took a full day before any of us were aware that CBS "cut and pasted" the Starr interview. I can't wait to see the entire transcript.


63 posted on 05/12/2005 11:02:53 AM PDT by King David (Let the good times roll)
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To: Al Gator

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml

Time to write some emails folks...


64 posted on 05/12/2005 11:03:28 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: Soul Seeker

(THEY DID IT AGAIN!!!)

Don't you mean: Oops, they did it again?


65 posted on 05/12/2005 11:03:43 AM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: Pikamax
I was furious at Ken Starr after the initial reports. I'm glad the record is being set straight. What gall of these liar to hold back the transcripts!!

Hey, CBS! Thanks for undercutting the moral position of that side of the argument. This only serves to help the conservatives.

66 posted on 05/12/2005 11:04:03 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I can't believe those dolts thought they could pull it off.

I have come to the conclusion that the "dolts" can't think. Pumping one-sided propaganda and distortions have become simply autonomous reflexes for SeeBS, et. al.

With the proliferation of new media outlets, even a minimum of thought would have told them they would get burned for this, which is why I am convinced their ability to think has atrophied.

For 50 years, they had no reason to think. Now they can't.

67 posted on 05/12/2005 11:04:09 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

were those really Newt Gingrich's remarks (about what a wonderful person Hillary is)....
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GOOD POINT!!!


68 posted on 05/12/2005 11:04:32 AM PDT by King David (Let the good times roll)
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To: Pikamax

I heard Rush talk about this too. Truly astounding. The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise. If Fox News had done something like this we would never hear the end of it.


69 posted on 05/12/2005 11:05:15 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: RobRoy

Lately people have been trusting the LA Times as well! Does that tell you something?

Must admit I was wrong about Ken Starr -- after Newt yesterday, I was ready to believe almost anything. Is the Newt with Hillary story correct or did part of that get slanted?


70 posted on 05/12/2005 11:05:41 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for Oklahoma Governor -- Run J.C. Run; Allen in 2008)
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To: winner3000; All
This is FRAUD that is perpetrated against the American public and should be investigated by the FCC.

Agreed. Deliberate fraud is grounds for the FCC to revoke their license, or at the very least impose severe fines. Public pressure should be brought to bear on the FCC to enforce its regulations.

71 posted on 05/12/2005 11:06:38 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: Pikamax
"Republicans voted (rightly) to confirm a former ACLU staff lawyer. They disagreed with her positions as a lawyer, but they voted (again, rightly) to confirm her."

Huh?

We disagree with Ginzburg's positions but it is "right" to confirm her to the USSC?

Excuse me, but I have a major cognitive dissonance here.

72 posted on 05/12/2005 11:07:08 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Pikamax

Reminds me of an old Mad Magazine bit where they spoofed movie ads, showing how they manipulated negative reviews into sounding like positive reviews. Thus a review which said: "This movie is a brilliant example of the decline of Joe Blow's acting ability. His ineptitude is truly stunning" becomes in the movie ad: " . . . brilliant . . . stunning . . . "


73 posted on 05/12/2005 11:07:14 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Howlin

They are liars......and stupid enough to think they won't be caught.....


74 posted on 05/12/2005 11:07:18 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Good point about Newt. I was furious with him but perhaps he is being Dowdified too.


75 posted on 05/12/2005 11:07:36 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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To: Pikamax; Howlin
Holy moly! I turned Rush off too soon........

Is he still talking about this?

(How much farther down can CBS sink??)

76 posted on 05/12/2005 11:07:52 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Pikamax

There were lots of people in here yesterday blasting Starr for those comments, calling him a "wuss" etc. Maybe they owe him an apology.


77 posted on 05/12/2005 11:08:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Digger
"Ken Starr, you need a press conference & get the record straight. Do it NOW!"

And what are the odds that press conference would be covered by CBS?
78 posted on 05/12/2005 11:11:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Pikamax
CBS journalistic philosophy:


79 posted on 05/12/2005 11:11:26 AM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Pikamax
"[O]ur friends are way off base in assuming that the CBS snippets, as used, represent (a) my views, or (b) what I in fact said."

geeze louise, the depth of arrogance at See-BS is an abyss. Bernie Goldberg is constantly being vindicated.

80 posted on 05/12/2005 11:12:22 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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