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Home schooling: Some of the Pros and cons
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 6, 2005 | Teri Weaver

Posted on 05/11/2005 6:09:07 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo

Home schooling: Some of the Pros and cons ...

By Teri Weaver, Stars and Stripes Pacific edition, Friday, May 6, 2005

Stars and Stripes talked to four Seoul-area families who home-school their children. They said they choose this method for a variety of reasons, some religious, some educational. They discussed their teaching methods, schedules, and belief that their children are benefiting from the choice.

None said their children lacked friends outside of their brothers and sisters.

Church, activities with other home-schoolers and inevitable time with the neighbors’ kids make up a healthy supply of friendships, they said.

The parents offered these advantages and drawbacks to home schooling for families who might be considering the option:

Advantages:

Drawbacks:



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Let's see. The drawbacks are:

1. Parents are involved in their kids' lives.

2. Change requires, well, "Change."

3. Hiding out from parents is hard.

4. Winter still lasts zero to twelve months, depending upon where you live.

5. The government is still screwed up.

6. One size does not fit all.

I guess that is as comprehensive a list of homeschooling downsides as can be amassed.

1 posted on 05/11/2005 6:09:08 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo
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To: The Great Yazoo
I'm a homeschooling dad for a six-year old, and I love it. Mom does history, readin' and writin' and 'rithmetic, I do science and 'rithmetic as well. Fortunately, Maine is not too caught up in paperwork - we don't have to be stuck with that.

The downside is being painted with such a broad brush by the NEA, and such statements as this:
None said their children lacked friends outside of their brothers and sisters.

My kid has plenty of friends, thankyavurrymuch.

Actually, we don't call it "homeschooling", we call it a "custom-education". A lot of time is spent going to music lessons, dance lessons, gym, etc.

The "downside" is well worth it.

2 posted on 05/11/2005 6:18:50 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: The Great Yazoo
So much of the Home-school thing depends on the parent doing the schooling. I know of one family in particular where mom is bright, disciplined and dedicated. It shows, at least so far (the kids are young). 5 very bright and well behaved kids. Poster-family if you're pro-home school. The mom is a machine.

I know another family where mom is not very bright, completely un-disciplined and is home-schooling because her eldest daughter (at the time) refused to try at the private school she attended. It showed. That daughter didn't learn much from going to the zoo 2xweek and the museum 2xweek or baby sitting so mom could shop. She apparently skipped sex-ed too, but the girl has done some independent study on that subject and seems to have passed the final. Now she is studying the welfare system and seems to be doing pretty well there too.

I guess I have mix feelings on the issue.
3 posted on 05/11/2005 6:21:18 AM PDT by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: The Great Yazoo

Yeah, I don't see the cons either. I recommend it to anyone.


4 posted on 05/11/2005 6:23:18 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: The Great Yazoo
Involves a full-time commitment from one parent..It’s a very sacrificial thing

And the other is out (sacrificing)to support the family.
5 posted on 05/11/2005 6:26:59 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: The Great Yazoo
If you are homeschooling a high school student, especially a junior or senior, let me humbly recommend the following:


6 posted on 05/11/2005 6:28:07 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: mad puppy
As a public school teacher, I've seen the same scenarios when for various reasons home-schooled kids enter the public system. Some come in with top-notch skills--both in academics and peer relationships. Some come in mediocre in both areas. Some come in not knowing the alphabet, but knowing what time Jerry Springer comes on. It depends on the family and their commitment.
7 posted on 05/11/2005 6:30:09 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: mad puppy

Your bottom line assessment is correct ... it depends on the parents.

In the state of Washington, the home-schoolers - over 25 years ago, worked with the legislature to recommend laws for homeschooling that included yearly assessment testing (or equivalent). This "accountability" checking can be sloughed off, but most parents are very interested in doing the best for their children.

Very few parents would CHOOSE to homeschool so that they could do a poor job. If the parents are lazy, it is easy to let the publik skools do the wurk, so the problem you point to is actually fairly minimal.

We home-schooled 3 children. The oldest homeschooled til 12th grade - then Running Start College. She will get her A.S. this June and was accepted to a college for Nursing. The second was homeschooled through 10th, then did 2 years of college with Running Start. He is finishing his plebe year at the United States Naval Academy. The 3rd enters Running Start for his 11th grade year next September. All in all ... we are not unhappy with the results. It has been work, but it was worth it!

Mike


8 posted on 05/11/2005 6:30:10 AM PDT by Vineyard
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To: Izzy Dunne
we call it a "custom-education".

You have that right! I much prefer "custom-education," "parent-directed education," "child-specific education," or (as a result of a multitude {too many, really} of outside activities) "car-schooling," to "homeschooling."
9 posted on 05/11/2005 6:32:23 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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I feel that while home-schooling is a fine path, I'd rather my children go to a school outside of the home and have to leave the parents for periods of time. Why? I believe it helps to create independence. It's also a completely different environment, you learn how to handle social situations at a school better than at home.

This is my opinion.


10 posted on 05/11/2005 6:35:32 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: mad puppy
I know another family where mom is not very bright, completely un-disciplined ... That daughter didn't learn much from going to the zoo 2xweek and the museum 2xweek or baby sitting so mom could shop. She apparently skipped sex-ed too, but the girl has done some independent study on that subject and seems to have passed the final. Now she is studying the welfare system and seems to be doing pretty well there too.

Why do you think the outcome would be different if that family remained in private school or placed the child in public school?
11 posted on 05/11/2005 6:35:56 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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To: The Great Yazoo; Rose of Sharn; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

ping


12 posted on 05/11/2005 6:36:12 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: The Great Yazoo

Actually, the only drawback I see is that homeschooling parents aren't given tax credits for not using a broken government service.


13 posted on 05/11/2005 6:36:32 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (The suspense is terrible...I hope it will last.)
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To: The Great Yazoo

We are a family of 7, my HERO wife is the most amazing person I know of this side of Heaven. Our 3 oldest are in home school. They have advantages in learning that the government would never be able to do even though the police state of New York confiscates an enormous amount of money to support spending to the tune of 12000 per student.

If I had that much money to home school my kid there would be no limit to the amazing things I could do for them. However, the STATE loses that money in a system broken from the top down.

A concerned mother runs ours activist unions run their system.

Their system wastes an amount of money that to many is obscene, ours runs for less than 500 per child.

Their system says that my child will not get "social" skills" while my system has a set of parents who take them all over to be with friends and home school groups that do not have kids on the bus teaching my children about sex, drugs or malicious behavior (and this is just the bus ride)

They have kids who attack their bus drivers, I have kids who adore their mother and father.

They have sex ed classes with a pro-homosexual agenda, I have children who will learn about a relationship between a man and a woman lasting a lifetime.

They have expensive school buildings that take my child for the day, and effectively teaching them only 2 hours of that day when you minus out the distractions, discipline problems and transportation issues as well as all the business of going from class to class.

They have one teacher per 15-25 students, we have one teacher to 3.

They arrogantly pontificate about their much vaunted "State Certification" and keep people employed with full benefits who CAN NOT TEACH while I have a mother that could shame them in any subject.

Are we then perfect? NO!

Are we "Better" than they are? Its not arrogant or pompous to say yes.

Are our children better off than their state equivalent peers? By far, just look at their testing. They are in the 85 percentile against the states 50 or less, they are tested harder, tested more often and have parents who know exactly where they stand.


Does my military lifestyle hurt them? No, it provides opportunity. when dad has an assignment to go to Washington DC for a week the WHOLE family goes and instead of READING about the national Mint they GO THERE. Instead of READING about Lincoln, they visit the theater he died in and the museums and the memorial. Instead of HEARING about the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence once in a small insignificant way they go to see them in real life and learn even more. Instead of just hearing about the greatest generation, they walk among their revered burial grounds at Arlington National Cemetery to witness the honor and dignity that their nation holds them in wrapped up with the changing of the guard. Instead of hearing about Gettysburg, they visit it and see the enormity of the loss of life and the memorials scattered around the mils of land dedicated to remembering what happened.

They will never be cut short of the arts or sports, while people in the public school system fight over dollars because their administrators waste it all.

Again, are we perfect? No, am I better than you? No, but again, are my kids better off? YES. Should ALL parents home school? NO. As a matter of fact some should not even attempt it. But do not think for even a small moment that I would submit my children to a state system that would show them less, give them less, equip them less and lower their standards all so union types can feel good about their liberal ideology failures.


14 posted on 05/11/2005 6:37:11 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: SoftballMominVA
As a public school teacher, I've seen the same scenarios when for various reasons home-schooled kids enter the public system. Some come in with top-notch skills--both in academics and peer relationships. Some come in mediocre in both areas. Some come in not knowing the alphabet, but knowing what time Jerry Springer comes on. It depends on the family and their commitment.

Have you never seen such kids come from another public school or through your own public school?
15 posted on 05/11/2005 6:38:05 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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Some of the drawbacks which my children have experienced include:

The idea that I was asking too much from them in their writing. This applied to paragraphs, sentences in workbooks and any thing which required a written response in sentence form. When they went to a group school, they quickly learned they could write and I wasn't unreasonable in my expectations.

Poor time management. When they had all day, they took all day.

Grades. They had no concept of A,B,C etc. They also didn't understand number grades either.

Organizational skills. They didn't realize that in order to have the math book at school it needed to be put where they would take it to school. Mine were especially bad with homework. They also didn't realize that bringing the homework to school wasn't enough. It actually needed to be turned in.

Mastering these skills is very important in other aspects of life. Having, listed all the drawbacks, I am VERY GLAD that for the majority of their schooling, my children have been home schooled.

16 posted on 05/11/2005 6:39:33 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: mad puppy
"I guess I have mix feelings on the issue."

So do I. I know a young woman who is home schooling her son because he got in trouble with school authorities and didn't want to take the discipline that the school was about to dish out. I am better qualified to do brain surgery than this woman is qualified to home school a child.

I don't think that this is the norm, however. I believe that most home schooled children turn out well. I also believe that this business of the child not being properly "socialized" is a crock. God bless the parents who are able to influence their children's choice of friends.

17 posted on 05/11/2005 6:40:33 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: kx9088
Why? I believe it helps to create independence.

Independence from whom? Parental influence? That makes sense only if you think parental influence is on net bad.

Ever notice how "independent" "grunge" kids are. They all dress alike, talk alike, act alike. Some "independence!"
18 posted on 05/11/2005 6:41:39 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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To: The Great Yazoo

As I have discussed on several threads, this is my experience with private Christian school:

My 15 year old daughter brought a required reading book home from history class, a book the entire class was reading. It was called, The State of the Arts: From Bezalel to Mapplethorpe. Knowing who Mapplethorpe was (a pornographer) I picked the book up and started reading. Chapter 1, page 1, there is a discussion about Mapplethorpe's photo of a man urinating into the mouth of another man. On into the book, I read about Annie Sprinkle's performance art of masturbating on stage and inviting the patrons to come up and view her genitalia with a flashlight. There's more but those are the highlights.

My point is, you can't trust anyone to teach your children, you have to keep a close eye on everyone while your kids are in public or private school. I would love to homeschool my kids but my husband disagrees with me. They will be going to public school next year but I will be spending most of my time there keeping an eye on things. Luckily we live in a rural area and the school seems safer than what you would find in a more urban area.


19 posted on 05/11/2005 6:44:03 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: The Great Yazoo

BTTT


20 posted on 05/11/2005 6:48:53 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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