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School Reduces Suspension Over Iraq Call
ABC News ^

Posted on 05/07/2005 9:55:43 AM PDT by bnelson44

COLUMBUS, Ga. May 7, 2005 — Faced with stinging public criticism, school officials in this Army base city have reduced a suspension imposed on a student who wouldn't give up his cell phone while talking to his mom a sergeant on duty in Iraq. ...

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KEYWORDS: discipline; militaryfamilies
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To: Michael.SF.

Thank you. When you're dealing with the public school system, it's probably wise to be a little paranoid.

Speaking of which, I'm going to play a minor role as a devil's advocate. We home schooled, so no one here has a lower regard for PS administrators than I. Trust me on that.

But, one thing I did learn during the 4 years my kid was in the public school system was taking a pre-emptive approach when possible. The kid should have gone into the office before he got call one and made clear his situation and told them this would be happening at some point. He should have politely made it clear, in writing, that he considered this case to be a reasonable exception to the rules. Then, when/if they acted as they did, he would have really had them by the short and curlies.

I know I speak as someone with many more years of experience. When I was 17 I probably would have done exactly as he did.

We all know what loonies school officials are. We are hamstrung by logic, not they. So, you have to take them out before the problem occurs. Hopefully, this kid will have learned that from this experience.


41 posted on 05/07/2005 11:18:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

>>>>The kid should have....

First off, I don't know if you got to read the articles from yesterday. The kid did take an 'adult' view of his actions and agreed, "I should have..."

Second off, that is the first thing we all do as good parents, when a kid does something wrong, we walk them through to SEE how a situation could have been handled differently.

BUT, let's NOT blame this kid for SHOULD HAVE. He did initiate civil communication BEFORE the, eh hum, 'adult' reached and grabbed.

NOW there is where the focus should be. That teacher reaching and grabbing.

HE/SHE is guilty of "He should have..."

Now, is this kids a military 'brat'? Is he normally a problem?

I don't know. But the articles yesterday, there didn't seem to be a dispute between the schools story and the kids.

::still on high horse for the focus leaving that teacher::


42 posted on 05/07/2005 11:29:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: D Rider

'"People are fussing at us, calling us names," Turner said. '

I love how when a pinheaded liberal is taken to task, he shares the blame ('us') - bet when he gets an award or a bonus, I bet he doesn't.


43 posted on 05/07/2005 11:34:40 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: D Rider
"People are fussing at us, calling us names," Turner said.

As a poster on the prime thread pointed out: that wording is so 12

44 posted on 05/07/2005 11:37:27 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools. - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Michael.SF.; paltz

"Paranoia is a gift granted by the gods to help is understand the universe" - Plato


45 posted on 05/07/2005 11:41:01 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools. - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: D Rider

""People are fussing at us, calling us names," Turner said."

I didn't fuss at them. I yelled at them. And I should have called them Nazis.


46 posted on 05/07/2005 11:45:18 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Calpernia
BUT, let's NOT blame this kid for SHOULD HAVE

Take a deep breath....I'm not blaming the kid. At all.

You have no clue the lunatic crap I dealt with in the 3 years my daughter was in HS. I know exactly how these people act. I had multiple situations with them that were a lot nuttier than this one.

My point is that this a lesson in how all of us need to deal with these nitwits beforehand, when possible. I hope that he carries that knowledge away with him after this. My daughter watched and learned just this lesson, and it has served her well since then.

Until such time as we can wrest control of our schools from these people, we must find ways to circumvent their idiocy. We can't make them all get real jobs, all at once. Though I would like to.

47 posted on 05/07/2005 11:52:06 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: All

Seems to me that the system worked exactly as it is supposed to.

A great wrong was done to the kid by a bunch of educated idiots.
Light was shined on the snakes and cockroaches by the media and this and other forums.
Now the snakes and cockroaches are running and hiding.
Betcha there well be some new faces in that school system pronto.

Yep, looks like everything is going great.
Just keep the pressure on.


48 posted on 05/07/2005 12:01:19 PM PDT by 76834
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To: bnelson44

The school smells a lawsuit.


49 posted on 05/07/2005 12:10:41 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I don't think you read and understood my full post. I wasn't ranting at you.


50 posted on 05/07/2005 12:10:57 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I didn't think you were ranting at me personally. No problemo there.

But, I think we (the right thinking portion of society) need to be more deliberate and methodical in dealing with these nitwits. I want to go berserk on them as most here do. Much of the time though, it simply won't work.


51 posted on 05/07/2005 12:25:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Calpernia

I should have added, that there are times it does work. This appears to be one of those.


52 posted on 05/07/2005 12:27:30 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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we've beend discussing this case on the local paper (Columbus Ledger Examiner) message board. Someone mentioned that y'all were discussing it here too so I came over here.

I just wanted to mention that I started a poll to see what people think is the appropriate response and would welcome comments for Free Republic folks

Thank you.

http://www.misterpoll.com/4165381307.html

Paul from Atlanta


53 posted on 05/07/2005 12:41:56 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Bump 52 AND 51.

ciao for now!


54 posted on 05/07/2005 12:48:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: paul_fromatlanta
I read the over 300 posts at the local paper here and was able to extrapolate that this school district in a blue county of a red state has a long history of thumbing their noses at residents. Sounds to me like the residents are up in arms about this, will be interesting to see if justice is served this time.
55 posted on 05/07/2005 12:49:11 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: paul_fromatlanta

But, but, I want to choose more than one option :(


56 posted on 05/07/2005 12:50:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

LOL
YOU CAN, I voted for three I think...

Should fire everyone from the janitor to the superintendent.
But leave the kid alone, he has more than enough to deal with right now.


57 posted on 05/07/2005 12:53:08 PM PDT by 76834
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To: Calpernia

>>But, but, I want to choose more than one option :( <<

Thanks for the inpout - the poll has been modified to allow multiple chopices and also comments.

Paul from Atlanta


58 posted on 05/07/2005 12:55:07 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: bnelson44
The thing is, the student had not business using profanity, so he should have been punished.

Where the school messed up, was not in giving a similar punishment to the teacher who exercised unrighteous dominion.
59 posted on 05/07/2005 12:58:14 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: tahotdog
Sounds like they need to fire everybody at the school from the janitor to the principle and everybody in between.

Oh no! Not the janitor, too. What did he do? Who's gonna clean up the puke in the cafeteria?

60 posted on 05/07/2005 12:58:55 PM PDT by dit_xi (Fingers and tubes in every orifice (tenet of critical care medicine))
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