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Religion and Politics Clash (Democrats Not Welcome at Church)
WLOS ^ | 5-6-2005 | Unknown

Posted on 05/06/2005 10:47:59 AM PDT by jmc813

Religion and politics clash over a local church's declaration that Democrats are not welcome.

East Waynesville Baptist asked nine members to leave. Now 40 more have left the church in protest. Former members say Pastor Chan Chandler gave them the ultimatum, saying if they didn't support George Bush, they should resign or repent. The minister declined an interview with News 13. But he did say "the actions were not politically motivated." There are questions about whether the bi-laws were followed when the members were thrown out.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: baptist; chanchandler; churchandstate; pastor
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To: I Like Lincoln
What is wrong with that? This country is in such a mess, we need all the help we can get from God. I wonder just what those 9 did to get kicked out. I am into genealogy and you would not believe what some members of an old Baptist Church were kicked out of church for. I have the minutes of the church for the early 1800's and they are very interesting.

Some of the Black churches have politics in their meetings all of the time and nothing is said about them. Before the election, I was switching channels on tv and came across a Black church service from Chicago and I could not believe the political nature of his "sermon". I even emailed him about it but never received an answer. I just wanted to know how he could get away doing something like that.

21 posted on 05/06/2005 11:56:27 AM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: Alia

I'd have a problem with receiving the Host, oh make that small 'h' host since its the Episcopal church, from someone I knew to be homosexual. No telling where that hand has been. Nor wanting to know, nor knowing whether it has been washed.


22 posted on 05/06/2005 11:56:38 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: I Like Lincoln

How would you like to be banned from Free Republic?


23 posted on 05/06/2005 11:57:28 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: jmc813

NOTHING in the constitution prohibits a pastor from requiring his flock to vote a certain way as a condition of membership in a church.

The 1st amendment protects RELIGION from the hand of the state. It does NOT prevent religion from having a hand in picking the representatives OF the state.

There are many reasons that you wouldn't want to belong to a church that would do something like this (and I still imagine there is more to this story). But there is nothing at all subversive or anti-democratic about it.

Since it has nothing to do with the constitution, or how government works, nor is it in any way related to or part of a discussion about how government SHOULD be doing, or the solution to any of the problems we might face, OF COURSE the democrats will be talking about it.

That's what they do, talk about things they can't change that are of no consequence, simply to get people riled up against the foundations of our society like religion.

There has to be something ironic about DU (where you are banished for even expressing a coherent argument which violates the orthodoxy) complaining about a church having a banishment policy of membership (again presuming that this is true which we don't know).


24 posted on 05/06/2005 11:59:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (http://spaces.msn.com/members/criticallythinking)
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To: I Like Lincoln

You gotta keep 'em seperated.

Do they? Clinton never walked around with a 6-pound bible and got his picture taken in church? He was an Evangelical, don't you remember?


25 posted on 05/06/2005 11:59:43 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: workerbee
I thought the plan was to just sneak up on 'em and go ZapZOT.
26 posted on 05/06/2005 12:00:23 PM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

yEAH, BUT THE CHRurches are afraid to talk politics because they are afraid of losing their tax exempt status. Except the Catholics occasionally.


27 posted on 05/06/2005 12:01:37 PM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: johnb838

Are you that scared of what I have to say?
I didn't insult anyone here. Why should I be banned?


28 posted on 05/06/2005 12:01:55 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: MamaB

Genealogy. Have you read Woodmason's Journal? We had the Baptist Minister in SC who got drunk on Christmas Day.


29 posted on 05/06/2005 12:02:45 PM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has flourescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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To: johnb838

Good point. I'm didn't say the dems are always better on this matter.


30 posted on 05/06/2005 12:02:46 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: I Like Lincoln
Are you going to call me a socialist pig now because you disagree with me?

Where did that come from? Feeling defensive?

31 posted on 05/06/2005 12:02:56 PM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: Jaded
No I have not. Never heard of this. The only reason I have the minutes to that church is that is where my ancestors went and the family was mentioned quite a bit. They got kicked out for fighting with another member, drinking, adultery, etc. I got to thinking about all of that after printing it and wondered just how many members would be kicked out today for the same thing.

What is your book about? Is it something like the minutes of the LRBC? Where would it be found in a book store? I love to read.

32 posted on 05/06/2005 12:09:03 PM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: I Like Lincoln
Are you that scared of what I have to say? I didn't insult anyone here. Why should I be banned?

You've already insulted everyone here. That's why you should be banned. What you have to say is not so relevant as that you're saying it.

33 posted on 05/06/2005 12:10:06 PM PDT by Woahhs (America is an idea, not an address.)
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To: I Like Lincoln
I guess you weren't a big fan of the Civil Rights movement in this country. That started in black CHURCHES.

Does the name Martin Luther King ring a bell?

Religion and politics have been and always well be linked in this country.

34 posted on 05/06/2005 12:13:58 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: I Like Lincoln

What country are you living? Here in the U.S. it seems like it's almost criminal to be Christian.


35 posted on 05/06/2005 12:14:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

Really? I've never gotten that impression.


36 posted on 05/06/2005 12:16:22 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: I Like Lincoln
Gettysburg address...to religious for ya?

You like Lincoln all right Lincoln logs.

37 posted on 05/06/2005 12:16:42 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: jmc813
There are questions about whether the bi-laws were followed when the members were thrown out

I'm glad I'm not a member of a church that has by-laws on the tenants of the faith, and what to do with those who violate them.

38 posted on 05/06/2005 12:17:49 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Jimmyclyde

I guess you weren't a big fan of the Civil Rights movement in this country. That started in black CHURCHES.

Well, sure, so would I if I would be hanged for talking about it outside a legislature on the street.


39 posted on 05/06/2005 12:18:37 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: Logos124

Ping


40 posted on 05/06/2005 12:18:50 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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