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Same-sex Couples Still Losing Out
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | May 5, 2005 | Jasmyne Cannick

Posted on 05/05/2005 12:30:32 PM PDT by Mark

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To: Mark
However, where does that leave me and millions like me? People who work hard our entire lives to provide for our families while paying money into a system that isn't guaranteed to us in our time of need, but is being used to protect other people's families -- including those families that do not support equal rights for gays and lesbians.

Same things happens to heterosexual couples who have children without the benefit of marriage. Neither the children or their mother is protected when the 'breadwinner' dies.

I wander how this woman feels about private accounts? If her money were held privately, she could bequeath it to anyone she chose, and her sexuality would have nothing to do with it.

21 posted on 05/05/2005 1:01:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Mark

Gays in the greater SF/Silicon Valley area have been getting married to other gays of the opposite gender for ages. Partner swapping on paper so that they can get benefits like normal married couples.


22 posted on 05/05/2005 1:02:06 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: SuziQ
You miss the point, Suzi....she wants you to think that it's all about her sexual choices.
23 posted on 05/05/2005 1:02:57 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: VRWCisme

"Therefore, as a black lesbian, I can expect to earn less and may never own my own home..."

Better put some ice on it...


24 posted on 05/05/2005 1:04:48 PM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Mark

essentially she is demanding "YOU" must pay for me to have sex with homosexuals.

This is nothing more than a demand for public money for private mere recreational sex.


25 posted on 05/05/2005 1:08:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Mark
In Bush's recent press conference, he proposed a system where low-income workers' benefits would grow faster than for those who are more wealthy. Seems fair enough to me.

I stopped reading there. Converting SS into just another welfare program based on "need" and NOT what you have contributed is so UNFAIR I could spit.

26 posted on 05/05/2005 1:09:40 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: tortoise

So these liars are prosecutable?


27 posted on 05/05/2005 1:12:32 PM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Mark

The purpose of this society is so that people have the freedom to differentiate -- not so that people have a right to all be exactly the same.

Otherwise, they ought to make same-sex marriages mandatory for all liberals -- until the numbers balance out.


28 posted on 05/05/2005 1:12:42 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: Mark
do you all realize what a gold mine this person is? As a black femal gay she's a three fer. Hire her and you wouldn't have to hire another minority of any type.

(Please note that I don't discriminate against anyone on basis of race or sex. Just on basis of utter stupidity)

29 posted on 05/05/2005 1:13:13 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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As a black lesbian

Wow, are you handicapped too! You should just get lots of free stuff.

30 posted on 05/05/2005 1:17:10 PM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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Ping to self for later pingout.


31 posted on 05/05/2005 1:18:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
What do lesbians do on their first date? Buy a house and move in together.

BWHAHAHAHAHA, that's pretty good!

32 posted on 05/05/2005 1:19:27 PM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: Mark

Simple solution Jasmyne.

Abolish Social Security. Then put the money you used to pay in social security taxes into a mutual fund.

Wall Street doesn't care if you money is gay or not.


33 posted on 05/05/2005 1:20:08 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Tax-chick

Me too, but according to the latest FR poll, that appears to be a minority position.


34 posted on 05/05/2005 1:21:14 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: TheDon

It's depressing sometimes.


35 posted on 05/05/2005 1:28:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of the next Ann Coulter (only with more clothes on, and she eats.))
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To: TheDon

I'm not sure that you're right. That poll included several different ideas about social security that are not necessarily mutually exclusive, yet the poll only allowed us to vote for one option. One option was to support Bush's current plan, while another was to end the system altogether. There were probably many respondents who would have no problem ending the system but who voted for the support Bush's plan option because it is the option on the table right now. Ending the system isn't on the table right now, so people who like that idea in the abstract may have voted for a more concrete, currently viable option in that poll. That poll did not accurately measure how many FReepers think social security should be totally done away with.


36 posted on 05/05/2005 2:20:47 PM PDT by VRWCisme
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To: Mark
Same-sex Couples Still Losing Out

In the interest of accuracy, change that title to:

"Same-sex Couples Still Losers"

MUCH better. :)
37 posted on 05/05/2005 2:31:10 PM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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Private accounts would solve the gay partner problem.

Exactly! If this dingbat would set aside her hatred of Republicans and the President and educate herself she would realize that private accounts would generate an asset she could leave to her lezzie lover, or whoever she wanted.

38 posted on 05/05/2005 2:38:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: VRWCisme

You may be right. I looked over the options and chose the one to scrap SS altogether, but perhaps others were not so careful to choose the option which best described their position.


39 posted on 05/05/2005 2:40:57 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: VRWCisme
"Therefore, as a black lesbian, I can expect to earn less and may never own my own home."

My greataunt, who died a few years ago at 85, was a black lesbian. She and her partner had been together 50 years. While my other 'aunt' couldn't collect the social security, there was insurance and there was a life estate in the house my aunt owned. She has her own retirement and is doing fine.

These are women who came up when it was hard for blacks to have anything, and somehow, they both had jobs, cars, a house, a nice retirement, and health care. All without special lezbo rights.

No one is stopping anyone from buying insurance or a house. Jeez, we've got programs for illegals to buy houses, surely an American can find a way to purchase a home, sexual orientation and race notwithstanding.

Lesbians, like other unmarried people, can find many ways within the law to take care of each other financially. Statements to the contrary are promotions of another agenda.

40 posted on 05/05/2005 2:48:36 PM PDT by radiohead (revote in washington state)
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