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Priest calls prize-winning judge 'murderer'(George Greer Alert!)
World Net Daily ^ | mAY 5, 2005

Posted on 05/05/2005 5:51:50 AM PDT by NYer

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To: frogjerk

Though I see your point (a time and place for judicial activism), I find it irrational at best for blaming a judge for following the law...why isn't the legislature changing the law now? Where is the big push?


21 posted on 05/05/2005 6:30:29 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: NYer

Why does George Greer wear that black robe to work?

Swine look really funny walking around on their hind legs, no matter how much you try to disguise them.

His colleagues are whistling past the graveyard, pretending that they can ignore justice the way he did without consequences.


22 posted on 05/05/2005 6:33:01 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: undirish01

No, the courts have not forgotten the natural law, or whatever it is you describe. The law may be based on religious doctrine, but the Code of Florida trumps everything else (save federal statutes and the US Constitution that preempt Florida law) including the Bible. Natural law, whatever that may be, does not take precedence over Florida Law. That is law school 101, my friend.


23 posted on 05/05/2005 6:33:48 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane

You still haven't cited the particular law you think he followed. And the appellate judges didn't consider the merits of any motions or petitions. If you were a judge, would you allow a husband who was living with another woman and had children with her to continue as the guardian? Would you find it to be a conflict of interest of remove him as guardian?


24 posted on 05/05/2005 6:35:29 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Tulane
He followed the law that stated the husband gets to make the decision...as did every single appelate court (I guess the two REPUBLICAN APPOINTEES are murderers, too?).

Please. Jeb Bush tried to pass a law to save Terri that was struck down by--yes, that's correct--activist judges.

"Just following the law" is not an excuse for starving an innnocent disabled woman to death. In a more humane time, such an idiot judge would have been run out of town on a rail.
25 posted on 05/05/2005 6:36:08 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Poundstone

Which law would that be? Do you have a statute number?


26 posted on 05/05/2005 6:36:22 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Tulane

"With all due repect to the Father, this Judge, along with every other court this case came before, decided the case based on THE LAW. If people don't like the result, then change THE LAW...any other result would have been JUDICIAL ACTIVISM...something none of us (I presume) want."

I hate to belabor the obvious, but THEY DID CHANGE THE LAW - AND THE COURTS IGNORED IT.

By the way, your soapbox is upside-down. Do you need some help to climb out of it?


27 posted on 05/05/2005 6:37:41 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: mlc9852

Unfortunately, the scenario you describe, is Florida law. I can get on lexis and pull the statute if you want...but I think that would be a waste of time, considering you will not change your position. Read the case...the statute is cited.

It is a conflict of interest...no doubt about that.

Ironically, if judges followed the same logic that this Florida judge followed (deferrence to the state legislature), we would have a much easier time stamping out abortion.


28 posted on 05/05/2005 6:38:15 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: MainFrame65

No, they took the easy way out and half-assed a law that only pertained to a single person...I am not a Florida lawyer (Virginia/ New York) so I have no idea why that would not fly in Florida...but seeing as how every single court shot them down, I seriously doubt there was some conspiracy going on to kill the poor woman.

Again, if judges used the logic that the courts applied in the Schiavo case, abortion would be a lot easier to stamp out.


29 posted on 05/05/2005 6:42:02 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane
No he didn't. Greer dismissed the inconvenient guardian ad litem. If I recall correctly, Greer illegally became the guardian for a brief time. Most importantly, Greer made a number of judgement calls -- none of which were forced by the law -- all of which went in favor of Michael, including bizarre rulings regarding visitation and general care of Terri. Greer ruled that MS's hearsay testimony was credible but the testimony of the nurses was not. Greer's hand was never forced in this. Not even close.

I wonder how many of the members of the West Pasco Bar Association are board members of the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast.

30 posted on 05/05/2005 6:43:11 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You are hilarious!" -- Dashing Dasher; "Very well put, AD. As usual."--Howlin)
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To: Tulane

Do you think the petition at the following link should have been granted or denied? Why?

http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/PetExpedJudIntervention091003.htm


31 posted on 05/05/2005 6:43:57 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Tulane

All courts refused to review the findings of fact. No court reviewed the copious conflicts of interest.


32 posted on 05/05/2005 6:44:10 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You are hilarious!" -- Dashing Dasher; "Very well put, AD. As usual."--Howlin)
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To: Antoninus

Why didn't Scalia, Thomas and the rest of the Supreme Court step in (they declined to hear the case on multiple occasions, deferring to the judgment of the several courts that ruled inthe husbad's favor)...believe me, it is not as easy as you think.

For the record, I hate what happened. But it is way to easy to blame the judges.


33 posted on 05/05/2005 6:44:54 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane
I find it irrational at best for blaming a judge for following the law

What law did the judge follow?

34 posted on 05/05/2005 6:45:44 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

The one that states the husband (spouse) gets to make the decision as to what her wishes were.

All Florida has to do is require a living will...make the person put it in writing that they don't want to be kept alive...if that happens, puff....no more controversy...

So, where is the legislature on this issue now?


35 posted on 05/05/2005 6:50:09 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane
but seeing as how every single court shot them down, I seriously doubt there was some conspiracy going on to kill the poor woman.

Every single court did not want to get involved. They just passed the buck in their own spineless way. Basically, they are complicit in the murder of this woman.

The rush to put this woman to death was absolutely ludicrous...

And anyway, didn't Judge Greer break the law by not adhering to the law that Congress passed? Didn't he break the law by not accepting the subpoenas?

36 posted on 05/05/2005 6:50:10 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Tulane
The one that states the husband (spouse) gets to make the decision as to what her wishes were.

The man was shacking up with another woman and had two kids by her! Isn't that an obvious conflict of interest?

37 posted on 05/05/2005 6:52:25 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

No, they didn't pass the buck. Most judges, believe it or not, want to follow the law. Many judges, think the laws they are asked to enforce stink (mandatory minimum sentences is one such issue, though I kind of like them). Make no mistake, judges, for the most part, are not spineless.

Did the judge get it wrong? Don't know. But he wasn't overturned on appeal (and one appeal went to a federal court that had 2 Republican appointees and 1 democratic appointee).

It is a tragedy. But I don't think anger at the justices is the correct way to go about changing the system. Anger at the husband, hell yes. Bottom line, where is the legislature now? Have they done anything to change the current law that would allow a potentially conflicted spouse to make a life or death decision in lieu of a written will?
Answer: the Florida legislature is AWOL.


38 posted on 05/05/2005 6:55:19 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane

The rest of the Supreme Court? Sheesh, these people are split seven ways from Sunday. The appeal had to go to Anthony Kennedy. He has jurisdiction over emergency appeals from that area. We have no idea how he handled it. Did he just dismiss it himself, or did he ask others if the wanted to hear it, and if so, who said what? All we know is there were not at least four(the minimum number) justices who agreed to hear it. Judge Bork told Sean Hannity that he predicted they would not hear it if for no other reason than the federal law that was passed giving her parents federal court access was about only Terri, not a general class of people, and that the Court does not and would not agree to hear an appeal about one person.


39 posted on 05/05/2005 6:55:20 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: frogjerk

How can I argue that one...I agree with you...but the law states the spouse makes the decision. It sucks. He is an assh*le. But the law is the law.

Again, where is the legislature now? Why won't they pass a law requiring a written will? They seem not to care now that the cameras are gone.


40 posted on 05/05/2005 7:02:07 AM PDT by Tulane
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