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New arena for birth-control battle
Star Tribune ^ | May 3, 2005 | Rene Sanchez

Posted on 05/03/2005 5:33:17 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

Rebecca Polzin walked into a drugstore in Glencoe, Minn., last month to fill a prescription for birth control. A routine request. Or so she thought.

Minutes later, Polzin left furious and empty-handed. She said the pharmacist on duty refused to help her. "She kept repeating the same line: 'I won't fill it for moral reasons,' " Polzin said.

Earlier this year, Adriane Gilbert called a pharmacy in Richfield to ask if her birth-control prescription was ready. She said the person who answered told her to go elsewhere because he was opposed to contraception. "I was shocked," Gilbert said. "I had no idea what to do."

The two women have become part of an emotional debate emerging across the country: Should a pharmacist's moral views trump a woman's reproductive rights?

No one knows how many pharmacists in Minnesota or nationwide are declining to fill contraceptive prescriptions. But both sides in the debate say they are hearing more reports of such incidents -- and they predict that conflicts at drugstore counters are bound to increase.

"Five years ago, we didn't have evidence of this, and we would have been dumbfounded to see it," said Sarah Stoesz, president of Planned Parenthood of Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota. "We're not dumbfounded now. We're very concerned about what's happening."

But M. Casey Mattox of the Center for Law and Religious Freedom said it is far more disturbing to see pharmacists under fire for their religious beliefs than it is to have women inconvenienced by taking their prescription to another drugstore. He also said that laws have long shielded doctors opposed to abortion from having to take part in the procedure.

"The principle here is precisely the same," Mattox said.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


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KEYWORDS: conscienceclause; pharmacy
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To: fdcc; kx9088; sitetest
How is birth control a moral issue? The Catholic church has even rethought things on this issue. While they still do not approve of a man-made contraceptive, they teach how to figure it out by the woman's cycle.

NFP vs Contraception

Spacing children may be a desirable goal that does not violate God's laws in certain serious/grave situations. But the means of achieving the goal differ.

One is intrinsically evil (abortion, abortifacient contraception, barrier methods, sterilization) while one is morally neutral (Natural Family Planning.

In one, an act is performed (sex) but its natural outcome is artificially foiled.

In the other, no act is performed (simple abstinence during fertile times) so there IS no act, therefore the practice is morally neutral.

It is then the intention of using NFP that constitutes its relative moral licitness or illicitness.

If NFP is used in a selfish manner, it too can be sinful.

If it is used only in grave circumstances, it is not sinful.

The difference is real.

Dieting (decreasing caloric intake, the "act" of NOT eating) is a moral and responsible means of losing weight to maintain the body's health.

Bulimia (the ACT of eating, them vomiting) is rightly called an eating DISORDER.

An ACT is performed (eating in this case) and its natural outcome (nutrition) is foiled by expelling the food from the body.

Likewise contraception is a disorder. An ACT is performed (sex) and its natural outcome (procreation) is foiled by expelling the sperm or egg or both (abortifacient contraceptives) from the body.

Contraception is to NFP what Bulimia is to dieting.

But just as dieting can be misused (anorexia) so too can NFP be misused in a sinful manner.

Finally, regarding infertility, if the sterility of the couple is through no act or conscious fault of their own, their marital relations cannot possibly be immoral, since it is not their intent to be sterile.

Yet many the Church married, who were thought for decades to be sterile, have indeed borne children in their later years. So it would be awefully presumptuous of any Church to disallow an "infertile" couple to marry.

141 posted on 05/03/2005 9:30:20 AM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel (A kinder, gentler Polycarp)
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To: From many - one.

I don't know what you are referring to. Please comment on something I addressed.


142 posted on 05/03/2005 9:31:50 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Bushforlife

Good for you!! I wish more docs had your strong convictions.


143 posted on 05/03/2005 9:33:40 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: hopespringseternal
While at the local courthouse we were seated in an empty jury room used for negotiations between attorneys. Something on a piece of paper caught my friend's attention and he pulled it out. It was an agenda for seminar for continuing education credits in ETHICS for attorneys. One of the topics, presented by a nationally known attorney, was entitled "Why Laywers Have to Lie".

Mind you, this was a seminar for ETHICS credit.

144 posted on 05/03/2005 9:35:26 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: Nora

In Illinois, PP is giving EC out like candy at parties.

See StraightupwithSherri on blogsforterri.com or prolifeblogs.com


145 posted on 05/03/2005 9:36:41 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: wallcrawlr
"Should a pharmacist's moral views trump a woman's reproductive rights?"

She can just take her 'reproductive rights' to another pharmacy.

146 posted on 05/03/2005 9:37:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Protagoras; Bushforlife

At any rate, its nice to see Freepers defending conscientious objectors.


147 posted on 05/03/2005 9:39:32 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Modernman
"Sure he is. Part of his salary is paid for by the sale of condoms and other contraception."

Maybe - depends on how the company manages their accounting. The pharmacy and the non-pharmaceutical goods may be accounted for as though they were individual companies.

148 posted on 05/03/2005 9:40:03 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I would imagine that most pharmacists/pharmacies discuss this as part of a hiring interview. If I was a pharmacist morally opposed to filling birth control scripts I would want assurance that I would not be required to do so before I took a job. Likewise, if I owned a pharmacy, I would want to know whether a pharmacist had any moral objections to filling some types of prescriptions before I hired them. I don't see why someone would need to be fired.


149 posted on 05/03/2005 9:43:36 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: wallcrawlr
A lot of women take the pill for non-contraceptive reasons.

That said, who is some sawed-off little runt of a pharmacist to say what I should and should not be able to do with my life. If it's legal, and they sell it at his pharmacy, then he should hand it over and STFU. I don't like it when the government interferes with how I choose to live my life, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let Wal-Mart.

150 posted on 05/03/2005 9:44:58 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: wallcrawlr

Reasoning with Fanaticism is fruitless.


151 posted on 05/03/2005 9:46:50 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Fanatics should not be working as pharmacists when they believe they can impose their "morality" on others.


152 posted on 05/03/2005 9:48:13 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Wolfie

I'm not sure I understand your comment.


153 posted on 05/03/2005 9:48:59 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: doc30; Bones75

Don't pharmacists have a certain obligation? A friend's wife was turned down at a few pharmacies filling a narcotic prescription because they suspected she was getting the narcotic for the wrong reasons? (Which she was)


154 posted on 05/03/2005 9:50:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Alberta's Child

You are not making a MORAL judgment about the construction but rather concluding it is improperly designed that is a PROFESSIONAL judgment. Jeez.


155 posted on 05/03/2005 9:51:25 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: doc30
The only exception would be a small community served by a single pharmacy. Then the pharmacists has no right to hold the resodence hostage.

I disagree. A business should operate according to whatever policies it chooses, free from government interference. If I am a supermarket and I choose not to sell apples, that's my right. The same should apply to pharmacies. If people want to boycott my business because of what I choose not to sell, then they have that right too.

156 posted on 05/03/2005 9:54:46 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: blaquebyrd
Dave, I was wondering and I'm not trying to be facetious here, if one had a moral aversion to contraception why would they want to work in a business that dispenses them? Is it enough to say I didn't fill the prescription even though they enjoy the profits and benefits derived from the sell of contraceptives?

I am not a pharmacist, but I imagine that they feel tremendous pride in the work they do in helping people to live healthy lives. There are certain things that are out of our control when we work for others and I don't think it always fair to apply a hyperscrutiny of others' behavior simply because they do profess a certain creed.

Certainly such a person who runs his own store would be expected to live up to his beliefs. But when others are in charge, it is more difficult. Does the Baptist refuse to work at Wal-Mart cause they sell beer? Should he stay away from any store that sells junk food, cause that can lead to gluttony?

How far up the corporate structure must we go in avoiding "profiting" from sin?

SD

157 posted on 05/03/2005 10:02:16 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Read through all of my subsequent posts on this thread -- I think I make my point very clearly regardless of whether I'm dealing with a MORAL or PROFESSIONAL judgement.


158 posted on 05/03/2005 10:10:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: SoothingDave

Every seller of a gun could be a party to a suicide.


159 posted on 05/03/2005 10:11:20 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Bushforlife

The job of the pharmacist is to fill prescriptions. If she doesn't do her job and is fired for it there would be no "show" just another fired employee. She wouldn't stand a chance in court.


160 posted on 05/03/2005 10:15:30 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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