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But John F. Timoney, Miami's police chief, called the bill unnecessary and dangerous.

Typical twaddle from a big city cop. Timoney worked under Bratton in NY City. Bratton is now the LAPD chief.

1 posted on 04/26/2005 8:07:45 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Florida was among the first states to allow people to carry concealed firearms...

Bull. My state had a 50-year head start on Florida. So did other states. Hasn't Vermont allowed this for hundreds of years?

2 posted on 04/26/2005 8:14:39 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: neverdem
Mrs. Brady, whose husband, James, was seriously injured in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan...

...joined Handgun Control Inc. (HCI) in 1985, and has spent the last 20 years trying to punish every gun owner in the United States for what John Hinckly did.
3 posted on 04/26/2005 8:14:45 PM PDT by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: neverdem
"The populace in Florida is very much common sense and on our side," Mrs. Brady said, "but the State Legislature is very conservative and the N.R.A. has control of them. I'm just sick. It's just a terrible, terrible bill."

Hello, McFly! The people of Florida elected the Legislature! Wake up, McFly!


4 posted on 04/26/2005 8:15:15 PM PDT by Shortwave (Islamic democracies are not places for a vacation. They may be anti-American. But so is France..)
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To: neverdem
Sheriff Ken Jenne of Broward County

If Ken Jenne is opposed to something, you can bet it's a good bill. Very anti-gun.

5 posted on 04/26/2005 8:18:58 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: neverdem

"Governor Bush, a Republican, said he supported the measure because when people faced life-threatening situations, "to have to retreat and put yourself in a very precarious position defies common sense.""

Makes sense to me.


6 posted on 04/26/2005 8:19:44 PM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: neverdem
Ok - I'll be watching FR and the MSM real closely to find reports on the upcoming bloodbath in Florida, now that gun-owning savages can go around shooting up people in public venues.

Somehow, I just don't think that will happen...
7 posted on 04/26/2005 8:23:11 PM PDT by BobL
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To: neverdem

You can always count on the police to oppose any law that allows ordinary people to do things the police stopped doing years ago... like fight criminals.


8 posted on 04/26/2005 8:27:56 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: neverdem
Chief Chuck Harmon of the St. Petersburg police.....publicly opposed the bill.

Attrition and retention rates of officers is pathetic in the St. Petersburg Police Department. The city is practically begging for officers. When he was first named as Police Chief in 2001, the PBA had a rally at City Hall complaining that Harmon was more interested in political correctness than law enforcement.

9 posted on 04/26/2005 8:31:46 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: neverdem

Makes complete sense to me. Texans are not required to RUN before defending themselves. I cannot conceive of any state requiring this.


11 posted on 04/26/2005 8:37:22 PM PDT by de Buillion (God bless John Moses Browning)
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Just in from WoC "news." New California law requires on-line verification of bullet serial number before firing in self defense.

Verifies that person is legally authorized to fire that bullet. Dems offer amendments requiring ethnic description of intended target, reason for firing.

Just in case, just kidding. So far only the serial number would be required.

12 posted on 04/26/2005 8:41:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: neverdem

Gee, you mean I don't have to wait to get shot in the back before I can defend myself? /Sarcasm


23 posted on 04/26/2005 9:47:38 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: neverdem
Most police officers go an entire career without firing a gun. Civilians are even more responsible. John F. Tierney and other law enforcement brass's opposition to the new law reminds of me of law enforcement officialdom's initial resistance to concealed carry weapons laws. The sky didn't fall after the latter were passed and the sky won't fall after the "stand your ground" law is in effect for some time. Its interesting the Brady Campaign is against this type of law. All of which goes on to show the real intent of the gun banners is to prevent people from defending themselves against violent criminals.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
26 posted on 04/26/2005 10:20:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
Unless, as with Terri Schiavo, you are not able to defend yourself. Then you have a right to be murdered.
28 posted on 04/26/2005 10:41:50 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: neverdem

I have to ask: Don't you think the bill should be more specific about the circumstances?

Remember that incident with the man shooting the exchange student who knocked on his door mistakenly? And I can think of a couple other such incidents. Those people "thought" they were in danger. Does this bill extend that "right" to the street without punishing them if they're mistaken?

Just looking for further explanation here. Thx.


35 posted on 04/27/2005 6:47:43 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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To: neverdem; big ern; SLB; Travis McGee; Eaker; ExSoldier; AAABEST; pocat

Police chiefs in big city departments are so far removed from actual "police work" that it is a crime for those polidiots with badges to make any statement, pro or con IMO with regards to public safety.

Besides it's laughable for these professional nuthuggers who carry a gun everyday tell others they don't need or can't possess a firearm.............phucm.


36 posted on 04/27/2005 7:45:18 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: neverdem; All

It's time to join the NRA. If you're already a member, please place the initials in your tagline. Exsoldier, I know you don't have the space. Thanks.


41 posted on 04/27/2005 4:04:04 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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