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Warning on spread of state surveillance
The Guardian ^ | April 21, 2005 | Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 04/20/2005 7:34:10 PM PDT by tomball

Governments are building a "global registration and surveillance infrastructure" in the US-led "war on terror", civil liberty groups warned yesterday.
The aim is to monitor the movements and activities of entire populations in what campaigners call "an unprecedented project of social control".

The warning came from the International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group, including the American Civil Liberties Union, and Statewatch, a UK-based bulletin which tracks developments in the EU.

They point to the system whereby all visitors to the US are to be digitally photographed and fingerprinted. The EU has agreed that member states must fingerprint all passport holders by the end of 2007. The information will be held on databases.

National ID cards, they warn, will become a "globally interoperable biometric passport". The setting up of airlines' passenger name records (PNRs) could include more than 60 different kinds of information, including meal choices which could reveal personal, religious or ethnic affiliations.

The US and EU governments are expanding legal powers to eavesdrop and to store the product of intercepted personal communications, the groups warn.

They also point to an agreement between Europol - the EU's incipient police headquarters - and the US giving what they say will be an unlimited number of American agencies access to sensitive information on the race, political opinions, religious beliefs, health and sexual life of individuals.

The groups point to increasingly close cooperation between national police, security, intelligence, and military establishments.

To achieve their ends, they say, governments have suspended judicial oversight over law enforcement agents and public officials, concentrated unprecedented power in the hands of the executive arm of government, and rolled back criminal law and due process protections that balance the rights of individuals against the power of the state.

These initiatives, say the civil liberty groups, are not effective in identifying terrorists.

 



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; privacy
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1 posted on 04/20/2005 7:34:10 PM PDT by tomball
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Still, there's only so much you can do with all that information. Remember, when Joe Stalin wanted to kill people he simply did it.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 7:35:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tomball

That's odd. The Guardian is upset over privacy intrusion? What about the zillion and a half cameras all over Britain already that count the hairs on their bums?


3 posted on 04/20/2005 7:36:55 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Get after the RAT's all of you cat people - earn your keep!)
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To: tomball
These initiatives, say the civil liberty groups, are not effective in identifying terrorists

Maybe they are only trying to identify socialists?

4 posted on 04/20/2005 7:37:12 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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5 posted on 04/20/2005 7:41:26 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: tomball

Afraid of someone seeing you pick your nose?


6 posted on 04/20/2005 7:43:00 PM PDT by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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"Governments are building a "global registration and surveillance infrastructure" in the US-led "war on terror", civil liberty groups warned yesterday."

Yea right. this is pure fear mongering. They can't even watch the mexican/US border in one state, and hold illegals in custody, deport them, or keep track of them. This is laughable to say the least.

7 posted on 04/20/2005 7:46:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I can see CCTV really taking off when technology allows unintrusive personal cameras attached to clothing so that you can record everything happening in a 360 degree radius during your day. It would give you the chance to use it as evidence in crimes, car accidents, lawsuits, arguments, etc so that you wouldn't have to bother protesting your innocence.


8 posted on 04/20/2005 7:49:11 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: SolidRedState

Now that you mention it.. yes, yes I am.. Especially when I get those big green goey ones.. Mmmmmmm LoL


9 posted on 04/20/2005 7:49:55 PM PDT by scab4faa (My mom says I'm cool.)
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To: scab4faa

Please tell me you don't eat them...


10 posted on 04/20/2005 7:56:54 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: tomball

The next step these evil monsters have in store for us is a National ID.


11 posted on 04/20/2005 7:58:27 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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Don't be naive, you already have that, and had it for decades. You just need to put your picture on it, and make it usefull rather than make a whole new separate one which will just waste more tax dollars. It's called a social security card.
12 posted on 04/20/2005 8:02:46 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: bobdsmith

With video tech costs plummeting as fast as inovation is rising, it won't be far off.


13 posted on 04/20/2005 8:28:16 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: tomball

We, in the task force community, sleep with our backs to our backs...


14 posted on 04/20/2005 8:31:06 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: bobdsmith

Microsecond by microsecond, thread by thread, we will not cease until resistance is understood to be futile...


15 posted on 04/20/2005 8:33:24 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: SolidRedState

LOL. The propaganda just rolls on. If anyone bothers to look up and around in any US city, they will find cameras watching everyone, everywhere, and at all times. Cameras are at every stop light, inside and outside every government building, inside every gas station (over cash registers), inside every bank, in every cop car (dash cam), etc. Privacy rights have been a thing of the past for a long time. It just took a few years longer for The Guardian to notice it.

There is plenty of nose pickin' being watched. Little did Alan Funt know just how far his Candid Camera would go.


16 posted on 04/20/2005 8:36:28 PM PDT by tomball
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To: tomball
Plus, soon all cameras will be networked for searches using facial algorithms, etc..
17 posted on 04/20/2005 8:40:33 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: tomball

If this is true:
"an agreement between Europol...and the US giving...American agencies access to sensitive information on the race, political opinions, religious beliefs, health and sexual life of individuals"

Why aren't they more worried that Europol even has that info before worrying about who they are sharing it with?


18 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:41 PM PDT by treadstone71
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To: WorkingClassFilth
LOL! My thoughts exactly. The twist is to have one think that it's "US-led." Heck, when gov't snoops look to creating a MATRIX-like data base they look at London...
19 posted on 04/20/2005 10:04:49 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: bobdsmith
They have (had) this. You are thinking of some kind of LifeLog by DARPA. They had "canceled" the program, but since the tech has been to the private sector. Gordon Bell, now with Microsoft, calls it a "surrogate memory." Check Microsoft's research into MyLifeBits Project
20 posted on 04/20/2005 10:27:51 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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