Posted on 04/20/2005 8:26:42 AM PDT by agsloss
Lancaster, PA, Apr. 18 (UPI) -- Part 1 of 2. Where are the autistic Amish? Here in Lancaster County, heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country, there should be well over 100 with some form of the disorder. I have come here to find them, but so far my mission has failed, and the very few I have identified raise some very interesting questions about some widely held views on autism. The mainstream scientific consensus says autism is a complex genetic disorder, one that has been around for millennia at roughly the same prevalence. That prevalence is now considered to be 1 in every 166 children born in the United States. Applying that model to Lancaster County, there ought to be 130 Amish men, women and children here with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Well over 100, in rough terms. Typically, half would harbor milder variants such as Asperger's Disorder or the catch-all Pervasive Development Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified -- PDD-NOS for short. So let's drop those from our calculation, even though "mild" is a relative term when it comes to autism. That means upwards of 50 Amish people of all ages should be living in Lancaster County with full-syndrome autism, the "classic autism"...
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I have identified three Amish residents of Lancaster County who apparently have full-syndrome autism, all of them children. A local woman told me there is one classroom with about 30 "special-needs" Amish children. In that classroom, there is one autistic Amish child. Another autistic Amish child does not go to school. The third is that woman's pre-school-age daughter. If there were more, she said, she would know it. What I learned about those children is the subject of the next column.
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I'm a scientist, so your lecture on studies was superfluous.
When you think about it, God sounds exactly like a loving parent; doesn't He? Go figure.
Good pt on 119.
Correlation does not prove causation. But a timeline helps. And sub-components of the measles vaccine has been gound in the lymph nodes of autistic kids using a PCR DNA test. O'Leary in the UK is now using this test (student of wakefield)
It is odd, indeed, that kids are not allowed to play with elemental mercury, which is relatively inert, but are injected with mercury compounds, which are much more dangerous. It's a strange, irrational PC world.....
Gee. I thought you were going to say you knew someone who HAD a breast implant and didn't believe it causes scleroderma, or that YOU HAD HAD a breast implant and don't have scleroderma.
I guess I'll just have to get used to being disappointed again in the posting of another armchair expert.
"Ask the man who owns one."
Floride!
Here I am on the road without my tinfoil.
I chose to give birth at home to children #'s 4 and 5 after doctors almost killed #1 and #3, and almost killed me on #2.
I was warned about how dangerous it was, how I was putting my babies at risk, what a careless parent I was being...I think the doctors were only concerned with their income.
Home birth went very well. I was up walking and going to church within 4 hours of delivery. I haven't been to a doctor since - and that was 17 years ago. I am just lucky (or blessed) I guess.
Very good connection you made! But vaccination amounts to OVERKILL and overwhelms the body's immune system. A better analogy (or what the barnyard immunity more actually is) would be homeopathy, which INDUCES the body's own immune system rather than overwhelming it with a foreign invader.
I have three sons. The first, duly vaccinated with each little poisonous jab on the list, has autism. The second, vaccinated fully but late on the schedule, is completely neurotypical ("normal"). The third I did not have vaccinated for his first two years of life.
Just four weeks ago he had his first round of vaccines. Ever since then he had had big red dots all over his body. They don't seem to be bothering him but they have not gone away much yet. They kept appearing over the weeks. The pediatricians examined him closely and ruled out anything infectious. They think it's an allergic reaction to something. They said it did not occur due to the vaccines. Yet it occurred within 3 days of the round of 4 shots.
I am afraid to go through with the vaccination schedule.
I'm not aware of that-- but I may very well have missed that aspect. Given the recent mandates from schools and daycares, it's hard to conceive of how the rate would go down but, then again, maybe that is why the recent mandates have come about-- the "consortium" felt it was losing hold on the masses.
I'll have to educate myself in that regard.
tell you the truth, some of the hostility has turned me off to concentrating on each reply on this thread.
They still use mercury multi dose vaccines. I know from personal recent experience. All of the old stuff is not out of the pipeline.
you are quoting from the book I mentioned above. I saw the same facts.
We had Babies 2 and 3 of 4 at home; both 1 and 4 were similarly injured by the Pitocin, but 1 was much more lightly affected and is doing very, very well now. There were similar odd things during their growing up years; the difference was in degree -- which is everything. #4 is essentially disabled for life and #1 is MORE than successful. #2 had the cord around his neck and one bad fall at age 1, with some later effects from both I think, but DMAE-H3 eventually helped him (as it did with #4 -- it's a neural toner, liquid drops in a dark bottle, by TwinLabs) and #3 had his vaccinations RIGHT ON TIME from infancy in 1974 and has some overfocus problems (!) but is otherwise okay. They weren't vaccinating as aggressively then, which probably saved us. Interestingly, both #2 and #4 were not vaccinated early, #1 and #3 were, so that rules out the impact of vaccinations on our autistic symptom base in this family and points right directly to the Pitocin. In addition, we had the privilege of speaking about our experience with SI with our son, and of meeting one of the other speakers and an autism researcher, Dr. Pangsepp, at a Sensory Integration International conference in San Diego in 1995, and he was doing research on the oxytocin system of the brain -- which is directly impacted by Pitocin -- and his research in the laboratory was directly supporting what we had seen in our own "family lab" with only our own observations and incidental note-comparing with other parents. It was around that same time we learned that the JARD (Journal of Autism and Related Disorders -- hope I got that right) had published an article on the epidemic of autism facing the country, and the Newsweek article quoting Dr. Hollander as saying that about 2/3rds of his autistic study population have Pitocin deliveries in their histories.
Our son was also written up as part of a composite patient in an article that interviews Dr. Len Ochs on his electromagnetic stimulation therapy, in JARD or a similar magazine, in the late winter/early spring of 1997, pseudonym "Tom."
The reason I keep challenging posters on this thread who don't have any personal experience with autism is because it took my laboratory of ALL four kids before I was able to make the connections I made: observation is the FIRST tool of research, and if you don't have your own lab to observe in, you're full of hot air.
By turning a blind eye like the cigarette companies in the 80s, so are the pediatric organizations, public health organizations, and the media. All of these push the full vaccination schedule on such tiny infants, in part because they are a captive audience. The medical and public community thinks that they could never get the shots into the kids at later ages.
How was I to know as a young mom that there even could have been an alternative to the vaccines? I still don't know if that caused the problems in my son, but "the greater good" doesn't help our families who have had to struggle with what we may have done to our children.
Excellent information. Thanks!
We vaccinated our son (he's just over 2-years-old now) but moved the entire schedule down by six months, much to the chagrin and consternation of our doctor.
We checked his vaccinations against the (current at that time) list of vaccines containing Thimerosol. Contrary to another poster's more recent list, our list contained hardly any listings that stated "never contained Thimerosol". We found that none of his prospective vaccinations/manufacturers were on the list.
We watched closely over the days/weeks/months, and saw no discernable negative effects.
We continue to alternately pray and thank God for our blessings... and occasionally miss the brief respite vaccinations gave us from our son's unflagging energy.
Could this not simply demonstrate a genetic pre-disposition (or in the Amish case, not) for Autism? After all, aspergers is clearly inherited and mostly male, right?
I don't know what it could be, but it might not have been the thimerosol alone. The babies are jabbed 4x in one minute, and each jab is filled with the "disease part" to cause the immune reaction, as well as all the culture media, preservatives, and who knows what else. INTO OUR INFANTS' BODIES. Surely that must be overwhelming? It's a wonder so many kids are OK!
Though if you look at the number of autoimmune things hitting adults lately, it makes you wonder.
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