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WE HAVE A POPE!!! (Cardinal Ratzinger-Pope Benedict XVI)
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Posted on 04/19/2005 8:53:39 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

WE HAVE A POPE!!!


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: benedict; benedictxvi; catholic; catholiclist; conclave; nextpope; pope; ratzinger
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To: Conservative til I die
I'm not ashamed and it's a question that deserves an answer. Another poster put up a really good article from the Jerusalem Post that explains the matter thoroughly. I don't believe he is a Nazi today or an anti-semite, of that I've seen no evidence. But I think an explanation of his past is not only expected but warranted. He is open about the question, who are you to berate me?

The good news about him is that he is going to really p*** off the liberals. I am overall satisfied, I think however Jean-Marie Luster would have been a better choice.

2,721 posted on 04/19/2005 4:42:12 PM PDT by N. Beaujon
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To: Lazamataz

You are nothing but contemptable slime. Give it a rest. Do you think it's funny for a piece of garbage like you to be joking about being Pope?

It's not. It's disgraceful. If you came anywhere near the Pope you would burst into flames and go to the hell that you so richly deserve.


2,722 posted on 04/19/2005 4:42:13 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Tina, eat the ham you fat lard!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

God bless Pope Benedict XVI. He's got a hard act to follow....


2,723 posted on 04/19/2005 4:43:39 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (Hillary for President? She wanted to be Pope!!!!)
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To: Southern Federalist
Interesting word I've never seen before: casuistry. Seems like this is the accurate word, not cauistry:

2 entries found for casuistry.

ca·su·ist·ry Audio pronunciation of "casuistry" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kzh--str) n. pl. ca·sui·ist·ries

1. Specious or excessively subtle reasoning intended to rationalize or mislead.
2. The determination of right and wrong in questions of conduct or conscience by analyzing cases that illustrate general ethical rules.

Websters-casuistryp [From casuist.]

2 entries found for casuist.

ca·su·ist Audio pronunciation of "casuist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kzh-st)

n. A person who is expert in or given to casuistry.

[French casuiste, from Spanish casuista, from Latin csus, case. See case1.]

2,724 posted on 04/19/2005 4:44:50 PM PDT by STARWISE (FIGHT JUDICIAL TYRANNY- CALL TO URGE COURAGE-SENATORS @ 866-808-0065+ REPS @ (202) 224-3121.FIGHT4US)
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To: pbrown
Why do they choose such old Pope's? His health will become an issue before too long then they'll have to go through the process again.

Two reasons: 1) Pope Benedict XVI's age made him a more viable choice, as the Cardinals often like to take a bit of a breather after a long, active, monumental papacy, such as John Paul II's. Being 78 means he probably won't stick around for 20-25 years. 2) Since the cardinals themselves are usually older, you're not likely to see a 40-something Pope. Of course, JP2 was only 58.
2,725 posted on 04/19/2005 4:46:37 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: I still care
On DU, the very first word after it's Ratzinger is the F curse.
It's really sad when you think about it with the mind of Christ. Not that they don't do it to themselves, and deserve it, but life must be a bitter burden when you spend it angrily set against God and his ways. Jesus wept over such as them.

As we should pray for them.

2,726 posted on 04/19/2005 4:48:40 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: angelanddevil2
Quix is kind of the de facto prophecy guy on the FR religion forum, but here is what I dug up (still looking for the exact thing).

My preferred translation for general study is the New Oxford annotated RSV. It has all of the various Apocrypha books of the Roman Catholics, and a few of the others such as Maccabees 3 and 4.

In one of those non canonical (by anyone) books, a mention was made of the great Eagle from across the sea that would not be on the side of the people of God.

Quix, I also think you posted something about that once, but I am pressed for time and can't find it! I will dig deeper later, but wanted to give AandD and AliVeritas a quick answer.
2,727 posted on 04/19/2005 4:50:13 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: King Prout
I know I'm late to the party, but one thought strikes me: isn't this a rather fast Papal election?

The average time in the past 100 years has been three days. Word has it that Ratzinger had 50 votes already going into the conclave, and he only needed 77 or so total. I heard two speculations on the final vote, that he got 81 or 91 votes of the 115.

I'm just thrilled with the choice, no matter how fast it was!

2,729 posted on 04/19/2005 4:54:07 PM PDT by padfoot_lover
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To: sitetest

According to my friend just now, the "on this rock" speech was NOT said by Jesus, but by his followers. I told her this was the first I'd hear of that theory! Her reference is a "history of Catholicism" but I theorized that it was a "liberal" version.


2,732 posted on 04/19/2005 5:01:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Proud Yankee, Proudly Pro-Free Speech)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey Laz, I think you are confused in all the excitement. Your girlfriend called....you've been declared POP, not Pope. Look at it this way, you still get to be a father.


2,733 posted on 04/19/2005 5:01:31 PM PDT by Benjamin Dover (This tagline space for rent)
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To: Lazamataz

Looks like you struck a nerve.


2,734 posted on 04/19/2005 5:02:29 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Darkwolf

Dear Darkwolf,

Well, like I said, I've never been impressed by Jesus Seminar types.

Your friend may believe what she wishes, as it is a free country.

However, what she believes is not Catholicism.

How old is she?


sitetest


2,735 posted on 04/19/2005 5:04:46 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
She's around 40.

I don't mean to bother you with this, I am not even a Catholic. But it's perplexing, because she seems to be arguing against everything that the Catholic church stands for, but is claiming it's the CHURCH that's defying the church's foundations. Thanks for your answers.

2,736 posted on 04/19/2005 5:07:09 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Proud Yankee, Proudly Pro-Free Speech)
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To: rockabyebaby

Well, don't you look silly now.


2,737 posted on 04/19/2005 5:07:53 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: sitetest
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1386999/posts
2,738 posted on 04/19/2005 5:17:55 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Alouette

Well, I'm not a Catholic, but I can't see them objecting! Especially when it comes from someone like you!


2,739 posted on 04/19/2005 5:18:00 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Currahee!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

There IS a "Catholicism for Dummies". But if you are looking for an official summary, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is the real scivy and not THAT hard to understand. Question and Answer format.


2,740 posted on 04/19/2005 5:18:51 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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