Posted on 04/19/2005 8:53:39 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
WE HAVE A POPE!!!
Its a great day!!
Me, too! It's too exciting, even to concentrate at work. Luckily I have nothing really pressing at the moment. ;-)
I was hoping for one of the ..... Third-World guys, because
that's where the church is growing.I heard he was German.
From what I've heard about the German economy, they may
get to "Third World" status yet .....:)
Good. I did take notice of Dave too... Thanks.
Kind of loses it's aura of eminent doom and terror when you let facts get in the way of the black legend.
That's why it's so hard, I don't want another church, but I can only be part of it once sex is no longer an issue?! I mean, how many of us here did not have premarital sex? Maybe you didn't, great for you, and I mean that sincerely.
I have a very hard time with all of us so glad the rules are strict now that they don't apply to us anymore. And goodness knows, I'm one of them. It's something I have been praying on.
You know the Conclave did well when they picked someone that the media will absolutely loathe. Note the seething in the first line of the Reuters "news story" about the new pope:
"VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the strict defender of Catholic orthodoxy for the past 23 years, was elected Pope on Tuesday despite a widespread assumption he was too old and divisive to win election."
Someone should tell these losers that unanimity of thought within the Reuters staff does NOT, per se, constitute "a widespread assumption".
Historic indeed. The last time this event took place, John Wooden was still taking UCLA a championship every year. This has only happened 100 times in the past 6 centuries.
I see it as a beautiful symmetry.
I'm not Catholic, I'm Southern Baptist, so you can cast me in the protestant/evangelical camp.
I've known of Malachy's prophecy since 5th Grade, which was back in 1972?. We had a public school teacher who not only taught us how aggressive the Muslims were but also mentioned this one day. I've followed it every since.
The stuff from Revelation is kind of synopsis of several people's views who ahve studied prophecy extensively. But some of it is just the plain reading of Revelation.
I still like Hal Linsay's take on the prophecies. I know there are people who hate Hal, primarily because back in the 70's he made a statement of "if this, if that, if we interepreted this right, if this, if that, then Jesus might come back in the 80's. He was wrong of course, but his statement had so many qualifiers that, and he himself claimed no special gift of prophecy, so I don't see how the charge of "false prophet" that is laid against him is valid.
I know the Catholics have some other prophecies including the third vision of Fatima and others. I don't know how much weight to assign them though.
And I also know that Notradamus made prophecies about the Pope. However because of the way Notradamus received his, using a cyrstal ball and with the guidance of an unnamed spirit, not thought to be God, I completely discount anything Notradamus has to say. Some of it might well be true, but considering the source, I have a very high distrust factor of it. I expect some of it to be true but other parts to be false in very misleading ways.
"I'm with you!!! This was really too much for a good Catholic to hope for. Or I should say "a Catholic trying to be good.
Amen, amen! Dont know if you caught my earlier post, but I am of the Benedictine order (associate), but of an Anglican monastery. St. Benedict is an excellent example for those walking toward God.
I have no doubt that Ratzinger picking the name of Benedict had nothing do with St. Malachy's prophecies
But there will be some that will think otherwise
YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Praise be to God!!!!
No, because he was maybe 14 or 15 years old then.
On DU, the very first word after it's Ratzinger is the F curse.
It's really sad when you think about it with the mind of Christ. Not that they don't do it to themselves, and deserve it, but life must be a bitter burden when you spend it angrily set against God and his ways. Jesus wept over such as them.
Vivam Benedictus Papam XVI.
I'm pleased but surprised they chose Cardinal Ratzinger---I thought his age would work against him, even though I think the College wanted an older Pope.
He was John Paul 11's closest confidant---that was in his favor.
As Cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI took strong positions against liberalism. He essentially squelched the Second Vatican Council.
Pope Benedict XVI means goodbye to liberals in the church.
The conservative beat goes on. A conservative in the Vatican, a conservative in the White House.
I agree that his age was a factor in his judgment. Also, the fact that he was elevated by JPII helps immensely. But I object to the absolute lack of discussion on the issue. If you bring it up, you're a troll!
I suppose this wipes out the notion that you "go in a pope and come out a cardinal".
He went in a pope and came out a pope!
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