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Obesity epidemic calls for measures like tobacco war
JWR ^ | 4-18-05 | Morton Kondracke

Posted on 04/18/2005 5:44:13 AM PDT by FlyLow

Since 1964, thanks to taxes, lawsuits, social pressure and prevention programs, the percentage of Americans who smoke has dropped from 65 percent to 25 percent. It's time to tackle obesity just as aggressively.

Libertarians, the fast-food industry and advocates for the obese object to "nanny-statism" and discriminatory incentives to fight the obesity epidemic. But in all likelihood, we'll need negative as well as positive pressure to slim America back down to a healthy size.

Lawsuits like the one pending against McDonald's aren't my preferred solution — they'll likely benefit trial lawyers more than consumers — but taxes on the fat content of food would be useful, and so would higher insurance premiums for those who are overweight.

The life insurance industry does impose higher premiums for the obese, but not as large as it does for smokers. And the health insurance industry generally provides lower premiums on a limited basis only as a reward for participation in diet-and-exercise programs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cary; foodpolice; health; kondracke; nannystate; obesity
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To: FlyLow
Taxing fat to cure obesity is ridiculous. The government should just change some existing policies that promote inactivity such as the current road standards, land use policy and school building policy. Each of these government policies promote driving instead of walking or biking.

Schools used to be built in neighborhoods near the students' homes and kids walked to and from each day. Now local school boards are closing the small neighborhood schools and building huge regional schools far away where the huge acreage can be purchased cheap. This means the kids are bused. It also means it's harder to get on sports teams since there is so much more competition to make the team in large school.

Road standards. Roads must be built and maintained according to DOT standards recommended by a quasi governmental association. These standards dictate that roads are unsafe for pedestrians and cyclists. In many surburban communities, these government roads are unsafe to cross on foot. This leaves no choice, *no choice* but to drive everywhere.

Land use policy. Local governments write zoning laws that forbid anything to be built near people. In most American suburbs, you must drive everywhere, even to get a loaf of bread because the zoning laws won't allow a neighborhood grocery store.

Instead of taxing food or going after restaurants, the government should look at some of their own policies and change them.

21 posted on 04/18/2005 6:37:39 AM PDT by grasshopper2
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To: FreeRadical

You said:

"Well, it's a nice rationalization, but the only reason people are overweight is because they ate more calories than they burned."

While technically true, there can be extenuating circumstances, as in medications, disease processes, hormonal imbalances, etc.

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/treatments/a/WeightGain.htm


22 posted on 04/18/2005 6:38:31 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: FlyLow

We will need obesity police standing at checkout lines at the grocery store. I am always appalled at the crap I see in fat people's carts, actually in most people's carts. And many times, I am willing to bet that we are helping to pay for most of the crap!


23 posted on 04/18/2005 6:39:14 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Anyone else able to track the hubby's movements by open drawers,cabinets and clothes on the floor?)
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To: FlyLow
Government should stop contributing to this. End the PSAs touting the ravages of "hunger," which they define as missing one meal a month. Lots of us NEED more hunger. Stop handing out in discriminant free calories. "Needs test" food stamps and the school lunch program by recording heights and weights periodically. Institute rationing for the obese. If they want to stay fat let them do so on their own money. With the money saved in buying less government food they can pay for further interventions.
24 posted on 04/18/2005 6:39:56 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: FlyLow
You forgot the barf alert. Morton Kondracke is a first class socialist pig. A bigger idiot you will find no where on the planet. If stupidity was a crime, ol Mort would be sentenced to death at least 1000 times over. His idiocy is so profound that reading even a little of his drivel leaves one stunned and confused. Trying to read a whole article from him can lower your IQ 20 points or more.

Please, post a warning in the title so that people who wish to avoid this cosmic black hole of stupidity, may. It is the only humane thing to do.
25 posted on 04/18/2005 6:42:35 AM PDT by monday
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To: tahotdog

LMAO!! Now kids can't do that anymore! The obese kids have no one to run from, thus they keep getting fatter! :)


26 posted on 04/18/2005 6:44:08 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Anyone else able to track the hubby's movements by open drawers,cabinets and clothes on the floor?)
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To: FlyLow

I just hate it when things which are not contagiouws are described as "epidemics". Why don't these idiots save it for the flu or something.


27 posted on 04/18/2005 6:44:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: FlyLow

You can have my deep dish pizza when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.


28 posted on 04/18/2005 6:44:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Smokin' Joe

contagiouws=contagious


29 posted on 04/18/2005 6:45:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Marilyn Monroe wasn't today's super model's 94 lbs.

But even back in Monroe's day, during the fifties, fashion models were terribly thin.

30 posted on 04/18/2005 6:45:48 AM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
"I am always appalled at the crap I see in fat people's carts, actually in most people's carts. "

If you have nothing better to do than worry about what is in other peoples carts, you really need to get a life. sheesh...
31 posted on 04/18/2005 6:45:54 AM PDT by monday
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To: FlyLow; SheLion; Gabz; Conspiracy Guy; CSM
Oh sweet fat, there's just soooooo much wrong with what this author suggests.

The annual death toll from obesity-related illnesses — diabetes, heart disease and certain cancers — is estimated atc300,000, rivaling the 400,000 who die from smoking.

To begin with, the CDC uses a computer program with NO supporting data to estimate the number of smokers that die from smoking related causes. They probably use something similar with obesity related deaths.

Another slight of hand - Libertarians, the fast-food industry and advocates for the obese object to "nanny-statism" and discriminatory incentives to fight the obesity epidemic.

Notice, it's an epidemic. Now is that putting a negative spin on it, or what?

but taxes on the fat content of food would be useful

If you can't outlaw it, tax the heck out of it.
Big Brother at his best.

In 1991, only 12 percent of American adults were considered obese, according to U.S. government data. By 2001, that was up to nearly 21 percent, a 75 percent increase. Other studies indicate that 65 percent of the population is overweight and 30 percent is obese.

Notice, he doesn't tell what guidelines were changed in that time period so that the large percentage was counted in the later study.

And the government should help

Help me! I can't help myself!
Calling for government intervention on this subject is NOT what needs to be done.

32 posted on 04/18/2005 6:47:44 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Monthly donors make better lovers. Ask my wife.)
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To: annelizly

You don't see the epidemic? Go to the airport. See really big people trying to fit into airline seats. Go the the hospitals and see all the oversized wheelchairs they have. Ask the EMTs if they're having to carry more obese people. Perhaps you live in an upscale area where people exercise a lot?


33 posted on 04/18/2005 6:47:52 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: aruanan

-One reason why there are so many obese people is because the number of smokers has been drastically reduced.-

Good point! Happened to my sister.


34 posted on 04/18/2005 6:47:55 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: monday

Oh and I suppose you have never noticed anything going on beside you in your life. Where do you get such blinders?


35 posted on 04/18/2005 6:48:41 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Anyone else able to track the hubby's movements by open drawers,cabinets and clothes on the floor?)
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To: FlyLow
"And the government should help, by...imposing taxes on fat and sugar"

Considering that a hugh reason for obesity in America today is slavish adherence to the low fat regime and the food pyramid, pushed by our government, one would have to be an idiot, which I assume Kondracke is, to ask for government to legislate our weight.

But I have a solution that can't fail, that should be sure to please all rationalists, socialists, and big government types like Kondracke: prohibitively tax all food, we won't be able to afford obesity, except in our already top heavy government.

And why stop at obesity, just think, we can mold all of society to a government ideal merely by intelligent use of taxation.

36 posted on 04/18/2005 6:51:17 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Capriole

"But even back in Monroe's day, during the fifties, fashion models were terribly thin."

Clothes look better on clothes hangers than they do on people. That is just the way it is, but fashion models are not the universal standard for good looks. Most men prefer more rounded women. It's only women who read fashion magazines who think super thin is preferable. Black men actually prefer fat women.


37 posted on 04/18/2005 6:51:44 AM PDT by monday
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ..
Help me! I can't help myself!
Calling for government intervention on this subject is NOT what needs to be done.

I believe when Bill and Hillary Clinton started this "It takes a village to raise a child," I truly believe they mean the government as "the village" and the children are US!

38 posted on 04/18/2005 6:53:53 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
"Oh and I suppose you have never noticed anything going on beside you in your life. Where do you get such blinders?"

Oh, I notice all right. I just don't feel the need to involve myself in other peoples lives. It takes a special type of busybody to care what kind of junk food strangers are buying at the grocery store.
39 posted on 04/18/2005 6:56:31 AM PDT by monday
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To: GladesGuru

The term "social justice" may not be quite the same as "socialism," but I note that it is used pretty much interchangably. Hayek, for instance, remarked that to arrive at the true meaning of the term social justice, you could substitute the word "coercive" for the word "social."

It is true that even conservative Jews often look for government imposed solutions. Sometimes, as in national emergencies such as war, it's necessary, usually it isn't.


40 posted on 04/18/2005 6:56:50 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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