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GOP's Filibuster Strategy Could Backfire (Tom Raum)
AP ^ | 4/16/05 | Tom Raum

Posted on 04/16/2005 2:53:41 PM PDT by Jean S

Edited on 04/16/2005 2:54:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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AP's Tom Raum, fair and balanced.
1 posted on 04/16/2005 2:53:42 PM PDT by Jean S
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The Senate is "not always going to be Republican," former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, the 1996 GOP presidential candidate, is reminding fellow Republicans. "Think down the road," he advises.

That's right. And if we don't do it now, the 'Rats will most assuredly turn around and do it to us anyway, someday in the future.

Go back to shilling for Viagra, Bob.

2 posted on 04/16/2005 2:57:11 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-G-d, PRO-LIFE..." -- FR founder Jim Robinson)
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To: JeanS

Personally, I don't understand how filibusters are OK for Senate business, but not for judicial nominations. Wouldn't the Dems just filibuster something else so there wouldn't be judicial nominations?

Why don't they just change the Senate rules to guarantee a vote within 30 (or 60) days of getting a nomination, and automatically confirm it if the nomination is not acted on by that time?


3 posted on 04/16/2005 2:57:59 PM PDT by KillBill
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To: JeanS
EDITOR'S NOTE — Tom Raum has covered national and international news for The Associated Press since 1973.

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They like to post this for some of the bigwig political hacks at AP. Like it adds credibility to his ranting. ;-)

4 posted on 04/16/2005 2:58:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"And if we don't do it now, the 'Rats will most assuredly turn around and do it to us anyway, someday in the future."

What gives you that idea? The rats have shown great 'comedy' in the past. =]


5 posted on 04/16/2005 2:59:51 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: JeanS

barf alert, please?


6 posted on 04/16/2005 3:00:21 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: JeanS

Someone should remind AP of the Whigs. That is where today's Democratic party is headed.


8 posted on 04/16/2005 3:00:27 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: JeanS

The strategy the republicans are using now doesn't seem to be terribly helpfull. The democrats have already brought everything to a halt so their threat to do so in the future doesn't mean a whole lot.


9 posted on 04/16/2005 3:01:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Exactly. This may be the dumbest straw man argument I've ever heard. If a simple majority can change the Senate Rules, then the Dems will change the rules once (if, hopefully) they get back into the majority. Or, the GOP can change them now and actually accomplish something. Either way, the Dems will take advantage of the Option--the only difference in the scenarios is if the GOP does as well.


10 posted on 04/16/2005 3:02:10 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (History remembers only what was, not what might have been.)
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"Dole is one of several former Senate majority leaders who have counseled a go-slow approach "

Having won, he would know. [/sarcasm] When Dole (Republican) ran for the President,
he was forced (by the Democrats and their servants, the Press) to give up his Senate seat.
When Lieberman (Democrat) ran for Vice President,
he cleverly ran for BOTH Semate and VP in the same election.
Kerry kept his seat, too.

CONCLUSION: DOLE is a Democratic pleaser, tractable, docile and limp.

11 posted on 04/16/2005 3:03:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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"Someday there will be a liberal Democrat president and a liberal Democrat Congress," Sen. John McCain


I'd like to ask McCain if he is talking about himself in that role.


12 posted on 04/16/2005 3:03:50 PM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
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To: bitt

LOL, isn't Tom Raum in the title enough of a barf alert?


13 posted on 04/16/2005 3:05:21 PM PDT by Jean S
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Unless we put judges in power that support the Constitution there will be no reason to consider the future. Republicans have never used the filibuster to deny a vote on judges. It is not Constitutional and is a direct violation of the advise and consent clause of the Constitution. As a matter of FACT there is not requirement for a vote all that is needed is for the majority leader to send a letter to the President saying that the Senate concurs with his nomination.
14 posted on 04/16/2005 3:05:34 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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I am outraged that the Republicans are ALREADY acting
like the minority party. I am further outraged because
the Senate rule (22) allowing filibusters is clearly
UNCONSTITUTIONAL no matter by whom employed! There are
only seven instances in the U.S. Constitution which
require supermajority votes and confirmation of judicial
nominees is NOT one of them. Wouldn't it be a shock if
these politicians did something once simply because it
is the RIGHT thing to do?


15 posted on 04/16/2005 3:06:50 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: JeanS

More like wishful thinking on his part.


16 posted on 04/16/2005 3:07:17 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: JeanS

these days, even obvious barf set-ups require large barf alerts...we are getting to the tipping point and ....I'm getting barfed out......:)


17 posted on 04/16/2005 3:07:36 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: Diogenesis

When Dole ran for Vice President in 1976, he kept his Senate seat.

He only resigned in '96 because his campaign wasn't getting any traction and he thought it would make people take him more seriously. Unfortunately, people were fat and happy with Clinton in power and didn't want to think too deeply about the race.


18 posted on 04/16/2005 3:07:41 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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Spend the Time and Effort that would be put into this effort...into getting a Filibuster free Majority in 2006.

If we make this a Law and we down the road end up a minority..we may as well just shoot ourselves in the foot.


19 posted on 04/16/2005 3:09:40 PM PDT by el_doctor2
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>Some are calling this approach the "nuclear option," one sure to cause Democrats to retaliate and sour any semblance of a working relationship between the parties.<<

What semblance of a working relationship is this guy talking about? Either he is too dumb to realize there is no relationship, or smart enough to know the Pubs are dumb enough to believe there still is one. John McCann just happens to be the dumbest of the lot. I say nuke 'em while you can.

Muleteam1

20 posted on 04/16/2005 3:16:08 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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